2013 Malaysian Grand Prix – race report
“I think Sebastian has respect for me and I have respect for him, but the situation today was not handled well. It’s hard to put your finger on it all now after the race; when we’re racing on the limit and pushing as hard as we can, then it’s the worst situation for a team. I am sure they are bricking themselves and know that things can go wrong. There’s a bit of history to this as well; my mind in the last 15 laps was thinking about a lot of things, but I was happy with the way I drove. I tried to isolate what happened at the end and we got something out of it today, but of course I’m not satisfied with the result. This puts heat on a few people and unfortunately there’s no rewind button. I know people want raw emotion from us after these situations and it’s there, but we need to remain cool. There’s three weeks until the next race, so time for us to work on things.”
382 Comments
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Zoran
on March 25, 2013What happened today is a big insult to the F1 competition as a sport. Sport should be about the best ones. Today, Mark was the best. But somehow Red Bull Team “engineering” manage to insult fans around the world. I do support Mark, but not Red Bull any more. Fair play is something that Red Bull team needs to learn a lot about. Hope that RB’s principal and Vettell will have tough season this year.
I also do hope that this will encourage Mark to be better driver than the RB’s pet Vettel. Mark – stay a great guy, you are better than that spoiled kid. You are number one. -
Jacobs michael
on March 25, 2013Vettel has the wrong attitude for the red bull team. People beginning to hate vettel..
I wish Marc Webber becomes champion. Marc deserves it, vettel NOT!!! -
Khoder
on March 25, 2013Sebastian vettle can’t believe how selfish you are bad form bud. You have a team for a reason not for u to make ur own calls very disappointed even though I had money on u to win its a teams sport never forget that
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Khoder
on March 25, 2013Vettel you showed no respect for your team but like they say what goes around certainly does come around see how u go next pit stop in 3 weeks I know I won’t be supporting you no more. To the red bull team fret work exclude Sebastian vettle.
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David Feldman
on March 25, 2013Mark has every right to be angry. Seb’s public apology seems proper, but it’s just words. He has done this exact thing before, and I think it was in Brazil where Mark turned his engine down and Seb did not. It’s one thing for Seb to apologize, it’s another to see him change on the track. He behaved like a spoiled child today, and frankly such a child needs to be spanked. If not, he will not change. Mark was the best man today, and made a dynamite start.
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Nick DB
on March 25, 2013Mark is dignified in the face of a very rough outcome. Some will argue about ‘racers being racers’ but no-one is bigger than the team – ask Alex Ferguson about that management philosophy. Vettel was arrogant and unsporting. Stay dignified Mark and the victory, morally at least, is yours.
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Rana
on March 25, 2013It is good to see every body understanding the mistake and Vettel apologizing. But it is hard to forgive what happened as it is not the first time. We heard how he was jealous seeing Mark in front of him on the middle of the race. Some body has to keep him under control as it seems he has difficulties to do him self. Any way it was very good race. Congratulations to all the team.
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Dr Bruce Vickery
on March 25, 2013I think Vettel’s behaviour is disgusting to the extreme. Mark, the time has come for you to walk away from this disgusting team and do something for someone or a team who really cares about their fellow man.
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Lee Pereira
on March 25, 2013He, s a dog mate!
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Carolyn Robertson
on March 25, 2013I have been a huge MW fan for years. Today I have even more respect for him
SV sadly does not have Mark’s maturity and professionalism and needs to be taken inhand He is quickly becoming a most unpopular driver which will reflect badly on Red Bull an otherwise remarkable team -
Marcus Stanford
on March 25, 2013Don’t like em, but maybe time to look for victory with Ferarri? Obvious RBR won’t give you the appropriate respect you deserve.
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Tim Barnes
on March 25, 2013Christian, there is one fundamental point you failed to mention is saying the Formula One is a Team & Individual sport, it’s also majority a fan sport, if you put your fans off side, what have you got? No fans, no support, no interest, no teams, no race. Seb can say what he wants, he can be sorry on paper, but in reality he’s not and never will be, he’s just another Michael Schumacher, an arrogant German who has no respect for his team, his team mate or the team principal.
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soraya
on March 25, 2013I just have a question, is vettel going to get a big slap from the team or Horner? not acceptable the brat if he start like that will go to walk all over every body, like a diva!!! enjoy your break!!! and again well done Mark!!
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Ger Ronayne
on March 25, 2013Mark,
I am a Red Bull Fan. I am (or should I say was)also a Vettel fan. However after todays preformance I have lost all respect for him. what he (Vettel) did was totally wrong and inexchusable. He needs to suffer the consequenches of his actions today. Let him leave the team and you stay!!
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Dominic
on March 25, 2013Mark,
it was a great race and the winner was you, but at the end there isnt a rewind button. enjoy the surf.. stay focus on the year, its only one race. -
Lesley B
on March 25, 2013Karma will be yours Mark. Shame the German guy can’t lie straight!
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Damian Miros
on March 25, 2013It was really nice driving for you, Mark. Surprisingly good start (:D) and constant, stable race pace along with maximum usage of tyres performance. This is ungrateful from Sebastian after all that perfect job you did on the track as a person. You were the only one who deserved 1st place in Malaysia. I hope you will figure things out both with Seb and with the team and next one will be “multi 21” 😀
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Robert D
on March 25, 2013It’s clear after today’s incident that Sebastian cannot be counted as a team player. He blatantly disobeyed team orders, he has the right to question those orders as did Nico, but not liking the answer he pushed passed Mark. He will brush this aside as a mere distraction to his own goals. The team is already making the excuses needed to hide their discomfort. I have a lot of respect for Christian, but today he lost that for not taking control of the situation. Have we seen the demise of team Red Bull and the rise of the Vettel Racing team.
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Rob Austin
on March 25, 2013History repeating itself with a driver who thinks he’s untouchable. Karma does tend to kick you up the arse sooner or later. A driver is never bigger than the team – ask Frank Williams and Ron Dennis.
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Rob Austin
on March 25, 2013Mark, well handled in the interviews. You dealt with all of them with class.
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Lee
on March 25, 2013Sebastian is nothing but a spoilt brat! Webber out classes him in every way on and off the track!!! Sort your shit out RedBull Racing!!
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natalie dudley
on March 25, 2013I understand team orders its a shame vettel doesn’t. Mark your race today was floorless you deserved the win.
Game on for the rest of the season show us all what you are made of. -
Bob Sorensen
on March 25, 2013What a farce. A BLACK day for the sport. Take away the radio communications and let them race one on one. Red Bull are obviously worried about Ferrari to pull this stunt and cheapen the sport.
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Jon Hardneck
on March 25, 2013What Vettel did today was not a sign of a true world champion,he said on the radio:”Mark is slow,do something about it…”Something like that and you may correct me if I’m wrong.Ayrton Senna is regarded as the greatest driver of all time,yet I do believe he didn’t became a great by being the undisputed no.1 at the then Lotus team,setting a record 65 poles or winning Monaco 6times,but by driving against Alain Prost in 1988 and ’89 in the same Mclaren,no team orders and no special favours.I’m not a Red Bull or a fan of any of its drivers but well done Mark coming from fifth you did a great job and you deserved to win today…Seb is a spoiled brat and should behave more sportingly…and Mark you are a great driver.
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Mosh
on March 25, 2013No Christian there is no debate about what happened. That little snot ignored team orders and selfishly put him and his team at risk. He hasn’t shown any level of precessional sportsmanship his entire career and with his ethics it’s not fun watching him in this sport. It was Marks win and he defiantly decided for himself. He should be embarrassed!!
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Jenny Wylde
on March 25, 2013I dont know how Mark kept his hands off Vettel. He stole Marks win. Chin up Mark, you’re the better man by far. All the best for the rest of the season.
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wassa
on March 25, 2013Pure and simple its the the seb show in his own mind! Someone needs to tell him there is no “I” in team. Fantastic drive, great start, and whilst if there were no team orders and he got you fair and square then thats that in my opinion but that was not the case. All the very best for China Mark
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D Payne
on March 25, 2013Firstly mark great drive sorry you got robbed if i was you i would have already parked my boots up and told redbull where to go you have put up with so much from this team its sad to see how they treat you.
secondly i choose my words very lighly vettel you are bang out of order you dont deserve to be in f1 you treat you so called team mate with no respect of course knowing as allways that mr horner would stick up for you like he always does you will soon relsie that your followers are leaving you drive for a team not your self its just a shame that the team awlays stick for you i would much rather employe mark webber than you any day i hope mark makes the right choice good luck mark -
Shane fisher
on March 25, 2013It’s just German f***ing arrogance!!! Vettal can talk all the bullshit he wants…. End if the day he f***ed webber over cos shit didn’t suit him.
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John Spicer
on March 25, 2013Well done Mark respecting the Team unfortunately your Team mate has never done that. Without you he would never have won three championships. You are the better Man and Team mate than RBR could ask for
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Gill Collibs
on March 25, 2013One of these days Vettel will cause an accident when he drives with scant regard for safety of those around him.
Assertive driving is fine but reckless is not! -
Gary Clarke
on March 25, 2013Mark your the Man, respect you lead by example and are a role model for all. Seb could learn alot from you. 21 all the way to Brasil!
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John McGinn
on March 25, 2013Mark,you are a great Australian sportsman.The way you handled yourself on the podium is a credit to you. This is your year-enjoy.
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Ian Harris
on March 25, 2013Should a similar situation arise with Vettel in the lead will Mark give him the same treatment.
What goes around comes around!! -
David
on March 25, 2013Petulance kills and Vettles maturity shone through, he is now ready for kindergarten. Perhaps Redbull Infinity need to reconsider whether they have a team or not.
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Wes Jackson
on March 25, 2013That was an awesome drice by Mark yesterday! Led for the most of the race and did everything right. If not for the very poor showing by Vettel, this should have been a win for Mark. Vettel has said he would undo it if he could. Rubbish. The performance and behaviour of the bloke (and with precedent showing similar is his true nature) is such tht he will do whatever he feels is in his own interest first, second and third and cop the (meager) consequences from the team later.
Mark is a true champion and an example to all the world of a good sport!! -
Susan
on March 25, 2013Mark is the real winner, unfortunately he doesn’t get the points due to his self-centred, arrogant so called “team mate”. Many races to go this season and given Mark started 5th on the grid he did a great job. Apologies fm Vettell after the race are a bit late. They could’ve easily crashed. Anyhow, Mark you are a champ irrespective. 🙂
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Rob Walters
on March 25, 2013“I’m not happy I won”???? what a crock. he knew what he was doing, knew he would get away with it and now has the points to prove it. Gloves off Mark. Go hard! as clearly there are now no longer team rules!
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Graham Izzard
on March 25, 2013Mark not the first time that German has taken a race from somebody else Button was ran off the track when due for a win and it will happen to you again. My advice is leave that team and drive for say Lotus or McLaren would be a very good choice. All the best for the future Mark! Graham
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Alison
on March 25, 2013It is lucky that Mark is so level headed and could keep his cool and therefore both Red Bull cars could complete the race. I cant see any other driver being as good about this situation as Mark is. I hope Seb learns that it can be a very lonely world out there if you keep treating others badly!
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Glenn
on March 25, 2013He can apologise all he wants, he took 1st place because he has no respect for Mark or the team. His focus is to win at all costs. The earlier messages to the team telling them to get you to let him pass support what happened at the end. next time you should ignore the team order, however I think the outcome may be different.
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Lucy D
on March 25, 2013I’m very disappointed in Vettel and what he did to his supposed team mate but really it’s something you would expect from him. Only thinks about himself. What makes it worse is the fact that they were told to slow down and stay in position, Mark did the right thing and was swamped by Vettel and he didn’t have the chance to do anything as he had already done stuff to his car to slow it down. This makes me dislike you even more Vettel, I thought you were bad before with your arrogance but now you’ve dug even lower. I would not spit on you if you were on fire. I wish that Mark had of left Red Bull last year.
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Paula Baynes
on March 25, 2013Watching the events unfold over the last few laps was shocking to say the least. I have every admiration for the professional athletes that they are, but in all the years I’ve been following F1, I’ve never felt as uncomfortable as I did watching that podium presentation today. Sebastian showed himself as a selfish precocious child. But you know what, all manner of drama adds to the wonderful mosaic of F1 that we all love. I will continue to watch with love and enthusiasm.
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Stu
on March 25, 2013Had my comment deleted last week, maybe I should hold my tongue this week just like Mark. Firstly congrats Mark you drove a great race. Time to take advantage of your form and put some top races together to show you deserve the support of the team. All of Australia (and most of the racing world) support your cause. Next year you can swap with Hamilton and win for Merc – Nico would love to have you as a teammate again.
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John Anderson
on March 25, 2013Sebastian, I don’t believe a word of your explaination. A few years ago, Mark was told to let you pass when he could have won. What you did is shameful
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Ben Jones
on March 25, 2013Good to hear an apology out of him, I’m happy with that, as a fan of RBR who has had to work very hard at coming to like Seb.
How could you not respect and appreciate a triple WDC?
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Steve from Adelaide
on March 25, 2013So why wasn’t Vettel told to hand back the position? Christian Horner, Team Principal – more like Helmut Marko’s puppett. Time for Mark to move on coz there’s no way RBR will ever let him win a championship.
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Adrian
on March 25, 2013I thought Mark drove very well today and did enough to win within the team’s race plan. But if Sebastian is not effectively chastised by the team then how can Mark have any confidence in them to assist him fairly in winning races. It is clear to me that Sebastian plays by his own rules and that for Mark to have any chance of winning he must do the same. Of course this attitude would not be beneficial for the team in the long run and so the team must put this right. If a Red Bull one two occurs again this season with Sebastian leading then he should be made to hand the win to Mark.
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peter
on March 25, 2013dont worry mark, vettel might be label the best driver in the sport at the moment, but he is not the best man as you are
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Julie Nyholm
on March 25, 2013Hey Mark don’t worry what comes around goes around. It just shows how certain countries mindset are. Its all about them. Chin up you can win the next race and lets hope that Seb learns his lesson. At least you know you came second playing fair unlike other people. From a Aussie Fan
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Mike
on March 25, 2013What a farce, Vettel should be penalised internally in the team & Webber provided some form of compensation. Red Bull don’t value Mark Webber & I hope he finds a more supportive team
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Wayne
on March 25, 2013Lost a lot of respect for Sebastian today. What a douche!
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Race-End
on March 25, 2013I really await the next days…decisions, etc…this will be something, which also influence my thinking about RB.
I am really a big Fan of RB and Mark Webber, but as I am pretty sure and already know how RB worked in the last 3 years and how they are think, I will stop buying any stuff from that company.
How the hell, can 1 driver think, he is more important, then the whole team.
Mr.Vettel, I hope you get what you should get…
@Mark
Stay cool, sum up your whole energy, fight back and please win this year!!! -
S Condon
on March 25, 2013Not happy seb!!!!!!!!!
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John Langbecker
on March 25, 2013Great race Mark, pity red bull do not have balls enough to control Vettel
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Judy Farrell
on March 25, 2013Hi Mark
re Malaysia – great drive – I know the attitude of some is ‘winning is the only thing’ you did good Mark!!@
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Daniel Clay
on March 25, 2013Great race Mark. It was clear for all to see who deserved the win. Keep it up buddy!
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Mike
on March 25, 2013Nice try Sebastian. If you’re so upset at yourself for what you did then forfeit the win and admit you’re a selfish wa**er.
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dean bentrup
on March 25, 2013I wonder how vettel would’ve carried on if the roles were reversed. F**ing whinging little sook.
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James Schinabeck
on March 25, 2013Seb was frustrated early on with Mark in front , begging the team to allow him to overtake even though , at the moment of his frustration , Mark was quicker on the track. So , to a TV viewer , it was obvious that Seb was bound and determined to get his way at any cost. He must be a very difficult teammate as all prima donna’s are.
Great result from Mark after a difficult technical issue in Australia.
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GK
on March 25, 2013Absolutely amazed at how selfish Vettel was and disrespecting the team call. Rosberg got a similar call and accepted it. Vettel cares only for himself not the team. Great drive Mark, that was your win, stolen by scum.
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Tony Callander
on March 25, 2013Excellent drive understand your anger we all felt for you The best way forward is to use it for motivation to beat the little h*n p***k He needs a very good lesson It seems this time he has even offended RB AND HORNER not sure about the very average bloke named Marko ( a shark variety I believe)
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nb
on March 25, 2013Vettel is a spoilt little brat who thinks the sun rises and shines on himself. Not a team player, just plays with himself. Wasn’t it Vettel who shunted Mark’s Jaguar when he was looking at his (Mark’s) first win.
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Jamie
on March 25, 2013The race showed Vettel’s lack of respect in many regards. As a professional racer, setting an example to young drivers and aspiring drivers. Team orders are there for many reasons, most of which us fans don’t like. However it was a cheap victory taken.
Seb always comments on trying to emulate the late Senna. Today he showed why he will never be regarded in the same light. Sure Senna was a hard racer and did alot of things we did not like, but he was a gentleman and a professional.
Mark has handled the RBR protected Seb Species thing well over many seasons. At least today it was put out on the table for all to see that not only does Seb have no respect for Team values but also his team mate who no doubt would think twice from now on about helping Seb if required in future races ie being a bit of a blocker between him and Seb if leading, also if Seb had no car left and needed to limp home Mark would well be within his right to fly right past.
The teams reaction on this one moving forward needs to not only be fair to Mark and Seb with regards to consequences but also to it’s fans. If not, our group (over 100 RBR fans) will be returning all gear purchased and remove all sponsor support and brand support associated with RBR. In addition we will be rallying to all RBR fans through various bases to do the same.
Mark is a professional both on and off the track, Seb is just a spoilt child who can’t be managed. Multi world champ is more so a reason to show more respect, maturity and humility to fellow racers, team and fans alike.
Solutions moving forward? I say remove radios from cars, pit boards only, tyres that allow the cars to run as fast as they can and no team orders. Lets get back to real racing not driving at 8 tenths. This is F1, the ultimate and not some economy drive where the race is over 3/4 the way in.
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Gary
on March 25, 2013Dear mark , i know after something like this happens the first thing we do as humans is let it get to our hearts and distract us from our main objectives , in formula one the team has protocols in place and i think that sebastian has showed his true self now and his lack of maturity , you had the race won and you dominated the whole race for a MAN to say i didnt do it on purpose and then do it goes to show that your not a truthful person your infact a liar that is something that makes it hard to be team player with so my main wish for you mark is not to let this distract you in any way shape or form , stay on the path , work on your setups and do what you know your capible of because in malaysia we all seen what you can do 🙂
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Paul Clarke
on March 25, 2013The only way you can redeem your reputation Vettel is to ensure Mark Webber wins a race when you are in front and he is behind you.
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Judith Conabere
on March 25, 2013I do not think it is fair that Sebastian Vettel should be allowed to keep his points for a “win”. This was not a win. He should be made to forfeit the points and Mark receive them instead. If RBR attempts to “sweep this under the carpet”, it will ultimately force Mark’s hand…and his legs to walk away from the “team”. It is high time RBR stood by this honourable man. Well overdue.
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Ben Hirst
on March 25, 2013Good race Mark .I think you should consider asking for teams orders for the next time Vettel is in front and your behind him. He should be told to let you pass. If they cant do this then you got no choice than to repay the favour and wait till Vettle turns his engine down. Im sure its hard enough to win a race without your team mate cheating every time your in with a chance to win. Most of the cars are similar performance anyone can see its difficult to win a race now.
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Chris Dawson
on March 25, 2013I am sure it’s easy for Seb. to apologise to you when he has the points. Very easy.
Keep up the great racing, and thank you for bringing some class to F1. -
Cam
on March 25, 2013Seb Vettel might lose some fans for this dishonorable conduct – not the actions of a champion. This is also potentially damaging to Red Bull Racing’s brand reputation. I hope Mark gets some good surf and can focus on winning in China. You did a great job Mark, and you should be proud of your efforts. Keep up the good work!
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WAYNE HANDLEY
on March 25, 2013Well done Mark, although once again you get dudded by you team mate and the Red bull heirachy. You deserved to win. I really hope the team’s boss comes down hard on vettel. What a low act.
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Malcolm Hills
on March 25, 2013As far as I am concerned Vettel has lost my backing and is a very selfish boy but nothing will happen to him as Mark Webber said his is protected !!!!!!!!!! as of know RedBull is a one car team Mark Webber
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Joey Ressom
on March 25, 2013HI Mark…all I can say from Australia is that at least you can sleep peacefully with the knowledge that you are not a dodgy, pitiful bloke. You are by far the better man….and the world knows it.
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KCC
on March 25, 2013Mark
You will do very well this year, more than you would expect. I can feel it and I know it. Keep cool and keep up with the good fight -
Grantley
on March 25, 2013Mark, I have the highest admiration for you and have often looked at results and wondered why.
Only you will know in your own heart of if you are getting a fair deal at Red Bull….only you.The only thing I would add is if you are not enjoying it….why put your life on the line if the deal is not fair and even handed? (and by ‘deal’ I don’t mean financial.
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Paul
on March 25, 2013I am an F1 fan and a loyal Mark Webber follower, who deserves more respect from a team he has served very well over the years. But what i saw from the race in Malayasia was not good for the sport, which i think right now is a very loose term for F1, to call it a sport. Fans want to see racing to the chequered flag. They are turning the whole thing into a joke.
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Michael
on March 25, 2013So Vettel said to Mark in parc ferme that he didn’t hear the 21 call and yet he later says that he ignored it.
If that is true, then he is blatantly lying to his loyal and highly professional team mate.
Come on Christian, show some leadership.
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adam mathis
on March 25, 2013Mark,
You drove like a true Champion today, and the few Aussies that we have here in Tokyo were all cheering you on, even the ferrari fans. The world learns how SB really is, a little like MS before him, that kind of breed. The positive is your competitive and still alot of races to win, which would be great for you this year.
Hope to see you at Suzuka
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Daniel
on March 25, 2013Mark,
Call it a day, Vettel will continue to get all the protection and Helmut Marko will continue to make disparaging remarks towards yourself.
Take the road less traveled Mark, your not stupid move on, move forward. -
peter
on March 25, 2013you might be champion vettel but you dont act like one. unlike webber.
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Thomas Park
on March 25, 2013Something the team will discuss? That’s not good enough. The race was Mark’s. They need to pull Vettel from his seat next race and let a reserve driver drive.
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Neil S Cranmer
on March 25, 2013Does Vettel really want to isolate himself from every Aussie F1 fan; if Mark did this in Germany all heck would break loose. How about Vettel giving 10% of his cheque to charity. He wouldn`t forget that
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Tony
on March 25, 2013Why am I not surprised by the German, he is a talented little boy who wants to win no matter the cost, well he has shown his true colours now and people will form there opinions I know what mine is, hopefully the wheels fall of his Red Bulland speaking of Red Bull well lets not they are not looking to flash either. Well done Mark bounce back like a boomerang .
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shane
on March 25, 2013Sack the Kraut!!!
He should look at someone for guidence – Michael Schumacher was a CHAMP – Vettel is a CHUMP -
Perry
on March 25, 2013Vet is a selfish person, if it wasn’t of mark he wouldn’t be 3 times camp. Mark is the one that help him achive that . Vetil should return the favor he disservice it , not doing this to him . The race in Monaco last year mark held the hole track up for vet to move up the order, that’s 1 example ……..
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wendy priest
on March 25, 2013Very upset how you were treated by SV on Sunday, don’t give up, get back out there and beat the arse out of him in China. NB my husband Rob Priest knew you in the early days and sends his regards and support.
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Trav
on March 25, 2013Seb is a wanker.
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Paul vee
on March 25, 2013You can defenetly tell who is the team player in the redbull team is. It is so evident that Sebastian will cheat to win . And that is about it.. you are not a good sport. Not the stuff a champion.. You didn’t out drive mark he thought you had his back. And I hope your team drops its support for you as you did to them last Sunday .
Put you self first mark love to see you do well this year , -
Frank
on March 25, 2013The team should hand Seb a one race penalty, or hold him in a pit stop to ensure Mark takes the next win. I was starting to like starting to like Seb but he needs to have a reality check now. And Helmut Markko needs to come clean too.
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Michael
on March 25, 2013Hallo Mark, i’m a german f1 fan, but what seb did is absolutly not correct. But in the end he loose and you win a fan, cause you are the winner of the heards. Respect to the fantastic race you did.
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Jason
on March 25, 2013It’s pretty low, seb ignored team agreement! Why make the agreement then break it, better not make it. Chin up mark, you should have turn your engine up, and made a bigger fight if it.
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AaX
on March 25, 2013You have known the risk of continuing on driving a Newey’s car. Don’t be so shock! It is anticipated from miles away (even if this going to win either of you WDC). This is the only way for you to be fooled into turning off your engine! Duhh. The instruction is supposed to be effective after you are overtaken at the last pit stop. No matter Dragon Mate, I think it will not be another Red Bull’s year (Ferrari is the Speed). Tips….. Honda might suit you fine
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Carrie
on March 25, 2013Hang your head in shame with such a stupid post Christian. You and the team don’t give a hoot about what happened, as long as RBR came in first. Give Vettel’s car to Mark and stop treating Mark like a 2nd rate racer. You and Vetter are such twats.
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Judy
on March 25, 2013I think Mark should give the spoilt brat a clip wont change the result but would make him feel better
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Coralie Reuter
on March 25, 2013Its amazing what Mark can do if his team decide to pull their finger out…although that little sh*t Vettel ought to be kicked in the ar*e wi
By Derryth a pointy toe shoe. ..I think
Mark should look for another ride
then see Dr who’s bloody too slow !!!
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Glenn Andressen
on March 25, 2013What a phoney Vettel is. He can display all the remorse in the world, yet he knows full well the record books will show him as the winner. Pathetic.
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Vini s
on March 25, 2013Great drive regardless, long season ahead, the incident is a great motivational driver!!!
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Chris Martin
on March 25, 2013I think it was obvious to most fans watching what went on, and Seb even looked embarassed after the race. It is well known now with the information available by telemetry, and the fuel and tyre issues that need to be managed that the team has good reason to control the drivers at some points of the race – Seb went his own way. But, big question for the team – what exactly is Marko supposed to be there for, nad if it seems he has long outstayed his usefulness why not show hime the revolving door to Bradbourne Drive? Surely Mr Mateschitz knows by now that Adrian and Christian can run the team without outside interference?
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Mirella Mears
on March 25, 2013What a crock! Obviously winning is everything and the team is of no consequence, the Gospel according to St Seb.
Mark we all know the Koala is a protected species. Perhaps the team can decal a picture of one on Seb’s car – would go down well in China as they love the little bugger.
Not much choice but cop it on the chin I suppose. China is another race – show them how it’s done – not just with talent but with class.
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Brian
on March 25, 2013Mark drove a fantastic race, out raced Seb all the way up to the team orders. RBR plays on Marks incredible team spirit he has paid his dues to this team so many times. Someting Seb doesn’t get, its not just thanking the team when you get a victory. Christian needs to come and be a real man and support Mark in this, not speed off some slimy words to cover up for Vettel. Show some real strength Red Bull.
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Bill Clifton
on March 25, 2013I agree with Mark Webber that things have to dealt accordingly, but I think would it have been clean cut if it was reversed and Mark had done the same to Vettel,some reason I dont beliueve so.
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Graham Lodge
on March 25, 2013Seb has shown his true colours.If that had been the other way round he’d have run crying to Christian demandind Mark be sacked!He drives for Red Bull not ‘Seb Bull’ and needs to remember that.Lewis and Nico respect their team.Christian always backs Seb,when asked what happened he said,”our drivers ignored the team and ‘raced’!! NO Christian, Seb ignored you and attacked Mark.Seb lost a lot of fans, respect,today and is beging to look like a spoiled bratt!If somehow he ‘accidently’ passed Mark and is truely sorry he should slow and gift Mark a win in another race(not likely).
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Brian
on March 25, 2013The only possible move Vettel can make to help address this is to give Mark a race win this year no matter what the consequences are to himself. The only down side is that Mark deserved the win with pride last Sunday and he should be carrying that full momentum into race 3 not having to deal with this crap within RBR. RBR & Vettel, it’s not all about the $$s, a man only has his actions in life to reflect on each night, when he gets old and to demonstrate to his children. You can hold your head high Mark. We are so proud of you.
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linda bickley
on March 25, 2013Maybe vettel should have a rest for a couple of races
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Barbara
on March 25, 2013Vettel is a little man with a lot to learn. He thinks he’s clever but he’s not.
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mark
on March 25, 2013mark,use this mate.we don’t need too tell ya.i had a tear in my eye when you won your first race in gremany,dont know what ill do when youre 2013 world champ.kick his ass(on the track ok)
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Fred.VandeVelde
on March 25, 2013Vettle maybe a great driver but he is acting like Michael Schumacher and is loosing credibility and respect of the fans that loss of respect is very hard to regain. Mark is a gentleman and a sportsman as well as a great driver that is worth much more than Vettle’s world championship status.
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Leszek
on March 25, 2013I wish Mark will be a one place above Vettel. Vettel did not deserve for 1st position, he should be banned for few races. He is just an idiot.
I support Hamilton who behave ok on the podium – he said that Nico should be at this place.
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graeme in perth
on March 25, 2013I firmly believe that Vettal has no manners & is far from a team player. Then, the Germans are renowned for this, look at history & war results & dictators. I sure do pity his next team mate. Mark drove a brilliant tactical race that was taken away from him by a twat with little mans syndrome. what the hell is Horner thinking allowing this to happen. He could have stopped it if he wanted to.
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Mark Main
on March 25, 2013You did a thoroughly decent job yesterday. Shame the petulant child is too fixated on being first rather that doing as he is told by his employer. It would also be nice to see the management of Red Bull giving him a punishment that is appropriate to his dereliction of duty to the team. As you already said, “they’ll stand by him” We all hope that payback will be a bitch for him and that you use this to beat him where it hurts the most, on the track.
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Tony
on March 25, 2013So what about boycotting Red Bull products? Not hard for me. I hate the stuff.
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Grant kellerman
on March 25, 2013Can someone please explain what exactly does turning down the engine mean. Obviously I understand less stress on engine and tyre wear. And can it be turned back up with immediate response.
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Sergey Burgazliev
on March 25, 2013Dear Mark, everyone know that your are great person and very honest man! Forget about Vettel, he is hypocrite… You are brave, strong and highest level F1 driver! I am sure, that the great person, like you are, will be able to be under of this stupid situation, and you will have many victories in future! From Russia, with love! Sergey
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Paul
on March 25, 2013Mark great drive really great to see you put it all together and although the result should have been one better still a huge effort. also great to see the team perform so well in the pit stops.
Everyone knows your in the best car, use it and the determination this 2nd place will bring. Make this your best year and win races, drive like we all no that you can. All the best for the rest of the season. Put the runs on the boards. -
Steve Bell
on March 25, 2013Vettel should hold his head in shame Mark it is now clear your so-called team mate spits in your face, the gloves are off its now time to take this championship then switch to Lotus. Sebastian who? Remember that butt plug who run up your arse in the Torro Rosso a few years ago? Mark stop being a nice guy, its now time for action
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Ray Cosier
on March 25, 2013Ray
Don’t worry about the end result Mark ,you have always drove your car in the best interest of the TEAM ( VETTEL ) but now the gloves are off and Sebastian has to realize that ,his arrogance has done himself no favours, There are rumors on the net you might quite but I don’t believe that’s your style so do your best mate that’s all you can do and surely the results will come this year and the Team ( RED BULL )needs to gets some back bone with Vettel give him a kick up the arse for such disrespect
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Ben
on March 25, 2013At what stage in the race did Seb realise he’d made a mistake…. he had 15 laps to put things right and allow Mark to regain the lead – Christian could have ensured this happened! Chin up Mark, you showed that you have form and can beat Seb fair and square… Keep your head right and the championship is ours.
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Mark
on March 25, 2013Great drive Mark.
What Vettel did to you yesterday was disgraceful. The fire in your belly should be white hot. Use this to beat Seb to a pulp and make RB beg you to stay for another season. Use it. Don’t waste it. -
Don
on March 25, 2013I only just purchased a Red Bull Racing jacket but after watching how the team managed this latest incident and how boy wonder will be protected again from a team support point of view it will not be something I have much faith in now. As for Marks drive it was fantastic. Well done.
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Kalle
on March 25, 2013All the best Mark! You should have won the race. What can I say? Typical German behaviour and not only in F1… Manners, manners, manners…
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Jill and Brian
on March 25, 2013Your a disgrace Vettel, “Baby on board” car sticker in post. Enjoy your break Mark, come back with even more fire in your belly mate. You are THE NO.1 x
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dermot
on March 25, 2013vettel should be suspended by rbr for next race and see how he likes it, its the only way to make him suffer. he should take note of how rosberg behaved. hopefully mark takes the challenge to him for rest of season.
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Neil D
on March 25, 2013You drove a brilliant race Mark, the only way the team can correct the injustice is to demand Seb allow you to win if a reverse situation occures. Don’t hold your breath…..Keep punching Mark 🙂
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Corbs
on March 25, 2013Don’t give the Brat the satisfaction of driving you from the team Webbo. You drove an awesome race and he cheated! Karma has a habit of paying back….my money’s on a DNF for the Brat in China, and a victory for you!!
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Jac (Ozzie in London)
on March 25, 2013Mark, use the momentum, your team mate is diverted and it’s time to focus and build on what you did this weekend. 10 out of 10 for your drive!
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Ss
on March 25, 2013The only damage Vettal has done is to himself. Great drive mark, you’re the real victor out of this mess with your own integrity still in tact.
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Gary
on March 25, 2013Mark Webber showed class that everyone should admire, he really has moral authority over the spoiled child. Time for Mark to now shut Vettel out of his mind and use this episode to focus even more energy into becoming F1 champion himself.
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Tony
on March 25, 2013I’ve been watching F1 for years and have been lucky enough to have seen races in different parts of the world. Schumacher driving into Hill was the worst thing I saw and Vettel yesterday was awful. He knew what he was doing no excuses and the lack of trust now makes it dangerous. Such a talented driver creating such a esteem for his reputation. Totally untrustworthy. Great driving yesterday Mark, have a great week surfing Currumbin and give Red Bull the flick, your life is more important.
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tony-leeds
on March 25, 2013Rise above it Mark. If SV does that again, do a schumaker on him and keep him up close and personal to the pit wall. Then listen to him bleat on the race radio!
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TravDog
on March 25, 2013Mark…whatever you do dont quit m8…youve worked to hard to walk away like this. Play the game the same way you always have until the end…get back out there and race the spoilt prick…hard and fair!! Youve got the pace…just keep working hard. F**k Seb!!
I hope you keep going another two seasons after this yr…because your still ultra competitive. 3 at Monaco would be nice too…and a w/championship!!!
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Aldo
on March 25, 2013Hi from Italy Mark! Just one thing: Vettel won the race using the worst and sad trick; you got 2nd place but peoples loving you instead the race winner. Sport without honour is just business. Go Mark!
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Michael Azar
on March 25, 2013Mark, you deserve better. Don’t give up because of this cheat. Pick yourself up and shove it up Vettels backside along with Helmut Marko. Christian Horner should have ordered Vettel back, what message does it send when a team Principal cannot or will not control its driver. Absolute disgrace, but you are above these guys. Keep your chin up and fight the fight.
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yazz
on March 25, 2013Good on you for keeping your cool mate gloves off on the track
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Andrea
on March 25, 2013First I want to say that there is no need to blame all German F1-fans!
Vettel is obviously treated as the Nr1-driver in the team (especially by Mr Marko!). He can do what he wants to without any punishment. He is absolutely no team-player and will never be.
I do not agree that Mark should get a win as a gift. He does not need any charity from Vettel. He can win without help. Maybe already in China?
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Steven
on March 25, 2013Red Bull Racing should be ashamed of themselves. From day one Mark has been loyal to RBR and done his best to promote the team both on and off the track. Along comes Vettel and Mark gets shafted and relegated to number 2 driver. Less support from the team and lower standard cars. No wonder it’s been such a struggle for Mark, yet through his struggles he has done very well, despite Vettel being given the better cars and treated like a his poos don’t stink.
Mark deserves so much better than he has been given.
I bet if Mark was driving an equal car he would have won many more races.
Mark, if you were to leave RBR for a better team, your loyal supporters will follow you.
I as a fan feel insulted by the team and Vettel.
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Julio
on March 25, 2013Mark deserved to win the race…i do not understand how can he stand the team´s decisions about being always behind Vettel, even being faster like yesterday….Mark, i would love to see you in another team in 2014…you do not deserve this!!
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Naomi and Alan
on March 25, 2013Dear Mark,
My husband and I were both disgusted with Sebastians attitude and behaviour today! From the second the very self indulgent and incorrect comment directed at yourself came over the radio we realised the level and capacity of his arrogance, he should be truly ashamed but it seems unlikely that will transpire. You deserved the win today and have always shown yourself to be a passionate dedicated driver but true gentleman at the same time. We know that the hurt will take a long time to heal (maybe never) but we hope that you continue to drive with passion and valour. We wish you well for all future races and remember good people are behind you willing you on to great things this season. Take care Naomi and Alan x -
Jeff Chapman
on March 25, 2013Mark, Don’t get angry – get even. You have the ability to beat him on the track “fair and square” and I believe that this is your year to do it. There is no way that SB would have the records that he has if you were not his “team” mate. Enjoy the surf and come back even better next race.
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Knuckles
on March 25, 2013Vettel’s behaviour was nothing short of an absolute disgrace. Red Bull encourages this type of behaviour by failing to discipline either driver sufficiently for their prior indiscretions. Seb and Mark are both guilty of this in the past. Seb more so. He is the wunderkind, unashamedly biased favourite of the Owner. After Vettel passed him, Webber should have pulled into the pits, turned off the engine and walked away from Red Bull forever. Red Bull management clearly does not respect Mark. I suspect that behind closed doors they have one set of rules for Vettel (do whatever the hell you like, including screwing over your team mate) and one set of rules for Mark (always do the Team thing). Mark was clearly the better driver all day, legitimately working his way from 5th to 1st position and maintaining it. Walk away Mark. You will always be considered 2nd best by the owner and he will always justify screwing you over for Vettel’s sake
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fastmarky
on March 25, 2013It´s F1 racing. Teamorder is the death of Formular 1. The fastest driver deserve to win. Vettel was faster (quali/race).. Rosberg was obviously faster than Hamilton. So what´s the deal about this? It´s not friendship, the are professionals.
Next time Mark will be faster than Seb and everything is OK
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khat
on March 25, 2013Mark have done a amazing race and he shows how a great professionel he is, keeping calm, standing back. Drive waves Mark and stay cool, this season is your’s if you keep strong mind. you showed us how you’re a good driver, among the best.
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Mark W
on March 25, 2013Great drive mark – thoroughly deserved win…if only others had the respect you show maybe it would have happened! – make 2013 the year you end Vettels ‘winning’ streak
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Wardono
on March 26, 2013Red Bull should ban Vettel for at least a race. After all said and done, to me, Mark is the winner.
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allan burnside
on March 26, 2013Vettel is so arrogant and petulant if he doesnt get his own way .Mark was so correct yesterday when he said he will be protected as usual ,Mercedes were in the same situation and both drivers obeyed orders with mutual respect like it should be ,Vettel needs taken down a peg or two he thinks hes invincible
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Jioh
on March 26, 2013pls don´t support vettel any more and drive even more harder to him, push ihm into the wall next time, he would do the same. if there is the chance for vettel´s 4th championship let alonso pass to beat him. most of the time vettel is quick, but you are much more man he is. go to beat him, send him off the track, step him into his face. sorry for my anger, but i hate this german babyface driving for redbull.
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Jioh
on March 26, 2013next time send him into the wall, he would do the same, remember!!!
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Leo
on March 26, 2013Mark has had little support from Horner and RB for some time. Seb’s apology is not sincere and means twat. Horner is a hypocrite. He will say in public that Seb has done the wrong thing, but will be congratulating him behind closed doors on a job well done. Mark has no future wirh RB, but his age is against him moving. If he intends to keep racing, and I hope he does, he should look elsewhere.
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Jens
on March 26, 2013The fastest one should win the race! I don’t want to see boring races with cars driving one after another without the permission to overtake. Sebastian Vettel has done well to fight until the end. It was a victory for Vettel and also for this sport!
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Mark Webber Site Manager
on March 26, 2013And Mark would be the first to say that he would prefer to race any day – that is not the point here. The team had asked both drivers to turn down their engines and conserve their tyres to ensure they both made it to the end of the race. One driver listened, the other didn’t…
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clive
on March 26, 2013We all like to see soemone performing at the highest level winning consitantly however, this wasn’t a win it was a robbery viewed by millions of dedicated fans. My respect for Vettel has evaporated. He was only apologetic because he had nothing else that he could have said. There will be no support from me any longer. Mark, Red Bull don’t deserve a gentleman racer like you. Go get them next time out
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Andy
on March 26, 2013I am in agreement with most posts with regard to Vettel and Red Bull’s treatment of Mark. I disagree, however, that Michael Schumacher and Ayrton Senna were perfect role models for Seb. Have they forgotten that Michael and Ayrton deliberately took out Damon Hill and Allain Prost repectively, in order to win the championship. These are not isolated examples in either case.
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F1 Forever
on March 26, 2013Hi Mark
RB should be reminded that they are the team and they make the rules. They need some lessons from Ron Dennis and how he controlled the team when DC was racing with Mika the team made a bad call and DC gave up his place for his team mate! F1 is a team sport; Enzo would have made the little sh:t pay for disobeying him! Ops your car is late for P1 !! So sorry! Grow a pair Horner even Mr Newey was pissed off about it, guess he is used to drivers doing what they are told so his works of art are not damaged. So much anger raging in me about this; glad I waited before posting so I could calm down.
Mark it was nice to see the pride in your Dad’s eyes he knew who won the race. Chin up and don’t share your settings with him. You are more talented and a better racer than he could ever be! Senna could pass; the brat can’t! He will never be nor should he be mentioned in the same article. Good luck for the rest of the season! -
Christine
on March 26, 2013Surfs up. Hope you enjoy what Qld beaches have to offer after some pretty torrid weather over summer. Love your work.
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Christine
on March 26, 2013Surf’s up. Enjoy what Qld beaches have to offer after a pretty torrid summer.
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chris
on March 26, 2013Good on ya mate.You are a champion.
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Michael C - USA
on March 26, 2013Your a true sportsman. Keep you head up and know that I would much rather be in your shoes then Vettel. There is more to life then winning. Your life is adventurous! I admire what you are doing with it. You mountain bike, run, surf, skateboard pretty much anything that makes you feel alive. That is number 1 in my book. I doubt Vettel has any idea what life is really about outside the driver’s seat.
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Wayne
on March 26, 2013Vettle needs to get a one race ban from his own team and let one of the test drivers drive in his place,that will make him stop and think and then he has the nerve to get out of his and stick his finger up like he does for been 1st.Not obeying team orders tells me that he does not think much of team pricipal.Mark just remember every dog has his day and his day will come sooner or later.
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Boz
on March 26, 2013I wonder if Horner can handle this. Sebastian assfu**** Horner and the team assfu****** Mark Webber. Who can be trusted
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Carlos
on March 26, 2013Agree with Mark Main, graeme in perth and Leszek. The problem is that Vettel has already gotten the winner’s punctuation and if mr. Horner really believes F1 is a team and individual sport, he has to punish Vettel somehow – on the track. If Red Bull (and almost whole F1) were more opened to pure competition, there wouldn’t be so many scenarios to discuss “what do do if…” up to the point to determine what competition is. This kind of things helps to have absurds like Vettel as youngest tri champ.
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Shannon
on March 26, 2013I now drink Mother and V
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Mercè.
on March 26, 2013Congratulations for your saint, St. Mark today, if not celebrate, you pass one of the best day of your life with your company.
Soul, you are a crack merexies you win, you’re the first for me.
You are a gentleman and I am Mercy, Catalan that I sent you a message on your birthday, and when I’m with my daughter at Montmelo workouts also told you that you’re a piece of home, and they continue on being , this means that you are very handsome, is a Catalan tradition.
A kiss and a hug, you’re my idol.
Handsome.
Goodbye. -
michelle.renouf1@gmail.com
on March 26, 2013Mark you are the best and all wil flow and speed with you on the track
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Rodney B Symonds
on March 26, 2013Mark you are a genuine sportsman with honesty, humility and integrity. You are worth 10 of Mr Vettel. Christian Horner needs to take charge NOW or resign. John Watson’s suggestion of at least a one race suspension for Mr Vettel is the MINIMUM punishment. Mark please do not let this dissolve into a Villeneuve/Pironi re run. Mr Vettel is NOT WORTH IT. If Ferrari (our team since Gilles) are stupid enough to give him a drive in the future I will give up watching F1 – I have watched or visited every grand prix since April 1963. We are with you Mark. Rodney and Barbara Symonds, North Wales.
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Steve C
on March 26, 2013That podium presentation was the ugliest I have ever seen. Not celebrations, no smiles, nothing. Felt sorry for the poor old interviewer. Mark was robbed of a win. If this is a team sport then team instructions should be followed. Vettel’s apologies were thin and meaningless.
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Dave Tett
on March 26, 2013Keep your head up Mark! Vettel showed his true colors yesterday and the world saw him for what he really is and he lost a lot of respect from his peers. You maintained your composure after having to deal with that and you gained massive respect for it. You are a world class driver and regardless of how the team treat Vettel you have and will always have a huge fan base that has the utmost respect and admiration for you. That you can achieve these results with the odds stacked against you in the team just shows what a great sportsman you are. We’ll get him back, Karmas a bitch!
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Trav
on March 26, 2013Is it Christian Marko or Christian Vettel?
….and is it even worth talking about…Ive always admired you Mark and that hasnt changed. I was very impressed with your drive in Malaysia. Its great supporting your efforts and i do hope theres another 2 yrs after this.
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nick
on March 26, 2013Forget what I or any other fan thinks – ask the greats, ask Jones, Moss, Stewart, ask them about real camaraderie and then ask Mr. Vettel, who clearly has an eye on history, if he understands that no one who can recite the world champions from memory will forget the depths he stooped to for 7 extra points and how that will lead to him never being ranked alongside drivers who never won a championship. You could also ask Didier Pironi’s son, Gille, how he got his name and how one shameful act casts a shadow on what was a very decent career in F1. Nowadays many people only support the winning drivers…for my sins my favourite driver of all time never won a race in F1 (but started ’00s!). I’m a Kimi fan, but hope it’s Mark vying for the 2013 championship alongside.
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Steve valentine
on March 26, 2013Mark, I admire your self control, I would have decked the idiot, your driving skill speaks for itself, you have been robbed before by this team and for me to see you move on to a team that will truly support you would indeed gratify my desire to see you as world champion, you more than deserve it. Keep faith in yourself and the next time you see this plank give him a dummy to suck.
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virago496
on March 26, 2013“It’s kids isn’t it… kids with not enough experience – you do a good job and then they f**k it all up.”
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Keith Madderson
on March 26, 2013A sizable donation to a charity of Mark’s choice would be small compensation/punishment
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Chris McBurney
on March 26, 2013I would suggest Mark deliberately ignores a team order endangering both of them in the process. BUT, Mark would in all probability be sacked forthwith and the Red Bull management would all gather behind the real danger in the team. It really was great driving from both of them but it is also clear that Mark pulled out of it because he is a responsible man, not a petulant little scroat prepared to wreck, maime or kill just to win.
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Pam
on March 26, 2013I will not buy Red Bull products again.
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Paul
on March 26, 2013At the end of the day, the fastest driver won…… Or did he? I understand Mark turned his engine down to save fuel?
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Martin buswell
on March 26, 2013I think we are all full of ideas on what Mark should or shouldn’t do/say. But at the end of the day Rise above it and get on and win some,
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dave butler
on March 26, 2013Mark, although I am a McLaren and Jenson fan, I feel obliged to show support for an honourable and excellent driver, the way the German treated you yesterday was a disgrace. Please don’t let him drive you out of the team or F1, F1 would be a worse place without you and I am sure you would only regret it down the line.
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martin buswell
on March 26, 2013Rise above it Mark. Get some win’s in this year and wipe that smile of Vettel smug Face..
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Eagle
on March 26, 2013Come on, it’s so easy Mark. Stop whining and start driving faster than Vettel! Cruising on a race track to save tires, while Mercedes is knocking at the gearbox of your team-mate – that wasn’t a great team effort either, was it?!? F1 is about racing, not about queueing in line because some masterminds made their strategic decisions. Orders like those from RedBull, Mercedes or Ferrari are killing the sport. If I were you I wouldn’t want to win like that and raise a donated trophy on the podium. Show the world that you’re fast enough to win without a team order. The car is good enough – are you?
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Georgiek9
on March 26, 2013Mark,
What happened to you this past weekend was a shame, no wait… what it was…was what the neighbor’s dog was doing to the stray hound in its yard ! Only difference was it was not on tv for everyone to see, but a f***ing is still a f***ing no matter how you look at it. And that is what took place in Malayasia.I wish you all the best with the decisions you will have to be making in the next few weeks &/or months ahead.
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sacha
on March 26, 2013Mark you are a great world class driver,get over it and kick some a** out of Mr Selfish. You’re the champ hope Red Bull thinks the same. He’s nowhere near you to race craft. Good luck Champ.
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miro
on March 26, 2013Germans won´t change. Uber alles!!!!
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Nick
on March 26, 2013Vettel might have No1 on his car but you’re everyones No1 driver. Stay at Red Bull, and win the 2013 F1 Drivers World Championship title for your fans..
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Sam
on March 26, 2013I am truly disgusted with the Sebastian’s actions and honestly believe in any other career he would be punished for failing to respond to the bosses orders. Mark you deserved the win and I hope you take the championship off Seb this year. Mansell thought he would never win and he did and I hope the same is true for yourself.
Agree with many of the fellow posters that Sebastian should be given some sort of punishment by the team for his actions but sadly I doubt the team will listen to the fans views.
Best of luck for the rest of the season Mark we all know you can do it and we are all behind you. -
diesel dog
on March 26, 2013Good drive Mark. Deserved the win. Would be good to see the team top brass back webbo as much as their golden child. Vettel’s reputation is lower than snake poop. he is a repeat offender, remember Turkey 2010? RB are repeat offenders, remember Silverstone 2010? not bad for a no.2.? use this as motivation webbo. go get your title. backing you all the way mate.
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Steve
on March 26, 2013Vettel is a smart cookie, he knows that the history books will show he won the race, all this anger we have will be forgotten by most over time. A true dog act from someone lower than a dog turd. Karma is a bitch, and it will bite hard one day Seb.
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Véronique
on March 26, 2013hello,
zen and be quiet because you are the best driver of this decade.
Take care of yourself.
kisses from France
Your mental strength will do the rest.
I believe in you and your abilities.
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Willemko
on March 26, 2013head up Mark, Think about the joy you give your fans, I dont think i have seen this in 40years of F1, well maybe with a other backstabbing German.
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Phil
on March 26, 2013What Seb did just shows how much a selfish driver he is how many times has Mark not attacked him to help his cause in recent years now is Marks time to prove he is a worthy champion
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Digger
on March 26, 2013Hi Mark,
It was so sad to see the Malaysia victorty taken from you like that. I have to say, I don’t like team orders in F1, it seems to make a mockery of what “competition” is about. But, as many have said already on here, if we must have team orders, then they should be obeyed by both drivers. Mark, you are truly a gentleman and behaved impeccably, please remember that whatever your decision in the wake of this incident, you have much love and respect from so many people around the world. Also, just want to say, well handled on the track, Mark- racing at such close quarters at that speed ain’t easy, you drove superbly there.
I have a good feeling that it will be a great year for you, Mark, despite this setback. Best wishes from Digger and family, Thetford, Norfolk, England. -
BCG
on March 26, 2013Mark, it’s hard to soar like an eagle when you’re surrounded by turkeys…
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Frederic Clement
on March 26, 2013Great Race Mark and a true roll model for kids.
Hoping you have a great season.
If your pit crew and yourself continue to do what you did in Malaysia I can see you winning the season. -
Per Olsen
on March 26, 2013Malayasia was a fantastic race upto the point Vettel took ya against team orders. Since following you when you started at Manardi, I have never been so worked up with what happened at malayasia, I have visited a lot of blogs expressing my disgust at bloody Vettels lack of honesty. I’m now concerned that your gonna throw the towel in at the wrong time of your career. Your not defeated yet mate. Go harder, take more risk and beat that arrogant drongo Vettel. C’mon mate, get to china. You’ve got world wide support. Maybe you should consider one more team change to Ferrari, and take on that ****head Vettel. Also I was very impressed that you kept it together after the race. Go Webber!!!!!!
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Nathan
on March 26, 2013Hey Mark
I know your pissed but take the time as you said to relax, regroup and have a think. As many have written we do hope you take this incident as motivation for the rest of the season. Good luck!!!
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Michael
on March 26, 2013Nach diesem Debakel sollten Sie besser nach Australien zurück und Schafe hüten, dann werden Sie auch nicht mehr beim schlafen überholt.
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Lin
on March 26, 2013Mark, you deserved the win yesterday but there appears to be no trust left unfortunately. We could all see how upset and frustrated you were and how you didn’t deck Vettel I will never know. Looks like Christian needs to take a few lessons from Ross Brawn on how to control his own rebellious young driver. I hope the surf treats you well – we Brits consider you one of our own remember that x
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Mike Blatz
on March 26, 2013Great drive, Mark, as a naturalized Australian born in Germany I’m both proud and ashamed. True Oz humility and tolerance you displayed vs the churlish hun’s little self indulgence to feed his flawed ego!
Punishment: Mr V can only use your discarded tyres for the rest of the season, so he comes to clearly understand the importance of tyre life management, and the purpose of race direction.
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Mike Birks
on March 26, 2013Mark you’re larger than this. Your character is honest and admirable, please don’t throw away your fantastic career just because of a spoilt (protected) brat. While you’re at it run over Marko and do the world a big favour – best of luck going forward
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matt
on March 26, 2013Great drive Mark, lap times showed you had it in the bag the entire race. I am so HAPPY that you had the BEST START! that race was a pleasure to watch you drive one of the best drives i have seen in a long time. take what you did today and replicate it 17 more times and try and better it each time. Karma is a B***H and she is only a few steps across the garage. Enjoy a relaxing time in Noosa and soak up the serenity 🙂
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Rob
on March 26, 2013Mark
You have inspired me with your determination and ability to work through setbacks over many years. I am 20 years your senior but you are my role model in that regard and I have reflected on your determination to turn my life around during some very tough times. This is your year – you are just being challenged early in it to see if you really want that world championship. Use this as fuel to narrow your focus and turn up the heat – no one can beat you when you are on song.
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Trav
on March 26, 2013Mark Webber has still got this yr and probably two more yrs to win the world championship….fit…strong,,,perseverence!! Mark dont even contemplate finishing up….when your still ultra competitive. F**k all the media who go on about you being the oldest on the grid…who cares as most people know the media is full of shit!!
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sanjeet
on March 26, 2013Agreed that team orders is bull, but they have long been a part of motor racing whether they were ostensibly prohibited or not. For what it’s worth, Webber had Vettel covered yesterday once RBR gambled on the early change to slicks for Vettel. Vettel complained that Webber was too slow and radioed to the pit wall for the team to get Webber out of the way, but then he fell back from Webber (and if Vettel’s “that good of a driver,” why did he need to ask the team to have Webber move over in the first place?) On the last tire change, RBR gave Vettel the preferential strategy, bringing him in first and putting him on the faster medium-compound tires. They did this to make sure Vettel covered Hamilton, but by holding Webber out there longer, it cut Webber’s lead from about 5 seconds down to nearly nothing.
Had RBR followed normal procedure, they would’ve given Webber the preferential strategy and brought him in first, in which case he would’ve maintained or slightly extended his 5-second lead on Vettel–but Vettel might have slipped to third during the cycle of stops. Thus, RBR’s tactical decision to give Vettel the better pit strategy on the last stop made sense, but it certainly cost Webber most of the lead he had built over Vettel. And in light of the order to turn down the engine mapping and KERS settings to conserve fuel and tires (and arguably to conserve the engine and gearbox), an order that put Webber at a power disadvantage when he complied but Vettel did not, it wasn’t a straight fight when Vettel decided to disobey the team order.
But that’s not really the issue. The issue is insubordination–Vettel effectively thumbed his nose at the team principal. Christian Horner needs to do something to assert his authority and control over his drivers. If he decides that the only way to manage these two is to throw team orders out the window and let them race each other regardless of the consequences (i.e., Turkey 2010), then so be it. If he decides that RBR is going to embrace the Ferrari ethos and make Vettel the number 1 and Webber his lapdog, then so be it (though he might want to consider giving Barrichello a ring, because I don’t think Webber would agree to it). But if he intends to keep the current course and let these two race each other, within reason, until the last set of stops and then hold station, he’s going to have to threaten both drivers with sanctions if they disregard orders from pit wall again.
I’ve seen it reported that a few ex-drivers are recommending that Horner bench Vettel for a race. At first blush, I thought that was the stupidest thing I’d ever heard–it’s only going to hurt RBR’s driver’s and constructor’s championship chances, right? But the more I think about it, the more I think Horner’s got to be prepared to do that if he wants to maintain control of RBR’s two highest-paid employees
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Mike
on March 26, 2013The best revenge is living well. Enjoy your vacation, come back rested, and lay down tracks. No physical stuff — this isn’t NASCAR after all! 😉
If Seb starts behind sometime, have your crew lay down bleach in the box. Then smoke him!!
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Mike
on March 26, 2013Suggestion for personnel change: Get rid of Helmut Marko. Yes, I KNOW he’s the owner, but after this business — piled on top of his treatment of Bobby Rahal when he was in the Red Bull team, I don’t feel much love for the boy. I don’t guess anyone can get him out from between the money and the team — pity.
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Simon L
on March 26, 2013Hey Mark – very pleased to see you got such a great start in the Malaysian GP, I wish you many more like that one. The season is long and revenge would be best served holding that F1 Championship Trophy aloft. Go get ém Champ!!
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Greg
on March 26, 2013Mark,
I don’t normally write in these comments, but felt I had to.
Like most Australians, you stuck to the agreement, now and as before. Putting that into the team in the belief, it will mutually benefit all.A nd as an Australian who know that it doesn’t always work out that way.
Hang in there mate, show ’em True Grit. -
stuart
on March 26, 2013So much courage
Your ego is so under control
There are two ways to go forwards
If you stop(not quitting) Just pull out, you will serve up a lesson that will be talked of for aeons. You could go with your head held High
If you stay, and fight this man with the ego, then you will just have a miserable year.
If you go,I will never watch F1 again. Will go back to Moto.
It is clear you have the sympathy of Tout Le Monde,
To those who brand all Germans with same label, please think!! I have many friends there. Kind good folk. -
hulliby
on March 26, 2013You drove a great race on Sunday Mark, definitely one of your most dominant grid-to-flag performances (and a great start!) – Seb’s actions were low, and his excuses were really poor. But even then, the way you raced him for those couple of laps before backing off was awesome.
I just hope that Sunday doesn’t reduce your drive and hunger for racing and F1, because you’re honestly the best thing to happen to the sport and an inspiration as both a driver and a proud Aussie.
The fact that you can go out there and dominate the reigning world champion in a car with a turned-down engine, cooler tyres, and little warning from behind, and be the bigger guy and show the grounding and humility and resilience to back off just shows it again.
Enjoy the good surf weather while it lasts, and good luck in China mate – let your driving do the talking!
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fiona c
on March 26, 2013vettel only closed up and overtook webber because webber turned down his engine as instructed to preserve engine, gearbox, fuel and tyres, (it is the right thing to do for the long f1 season, for the constructors championship and for both the drivers’ safety, as you certainly don’t want the engine suddenly blows up or the tyres pop when they are doing like 300 km/h) and vettel didnt follow that instruction. You can clearly see when vettel actually overtook webber after a few challenges from vettel, webber deliberately gave vettel more than enough room on the outside to drive past in order to avoid any accident, webber didnt try to push vettel to the grass or did anything silly. Webber was driving smart as always, and a good team player as a professional. F1 is always a team sport from the very beginning, I understand that only 1 driver is driving each car, but behind each driver there are hundreds of people designing the car, maintaining the car, the whole team, all the sponsors and all the related parties. The drivers are only part of the whole team, the drivers are driving for the team, and not the other way around. Webber’s car is always heavier than vettel’s car, due to webber is at least 20 kg heavier and much taller than vettel, the position of that extra weight inside the car will make the whole handling geometry different. Although both cars are based on the same design but vettel’s car will always be that tiny bit faster. I am not saying vettel is fast only with a faster car, but despite webber being the oldest on the grid, webber is still one of the fastest drivers out there with good spirit. I am not saying he must be the fastest driver but he is definitely one of the fastest one out there, there is no question about it. Go webber!!!
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stuart
on March 26, 2013have you ever noticed the resemblance between Hitler and the Brat? it is uncanny, they look alike, both chinless ugly sonsab***hes
Bet your last dollar that if this was 1939 Vettel would be in the Hitler youth movement
It was great watching the Podium MW with his head up high, The Man, Vettel defeated in victory(note lower case) -
FRED
on March 26, 2013Dear Mr Webber,I’m of an age where I remember watching Ronnie Peterson driving absolutely flat the whole way through the original Woodcote on opposite lock and Keke Rosburg’s 64 second lap around Silverstone in the 1200bhp Williams (turbo) Honda. So over the years I’ve seen quite a bit of F1. What I saw on Sunday left a bad taste in my mouth.
Although the press has quoted you as saying your phone is going to be switched off while you’re surfing in Oz, I hope that is for public consumption only!
I would hope that the phone line between you and your management is white hot at the moment.
I sincerely hope sir that you continue in F1. I’ve always respected you as a driver and person. When you’ve done well you’ve enjoyed the moment – if you’ve made a mistake you’re the first to put your hand up and admit it. The difference between you and many other F1 drivers is that you have a sense of fair play and moral integrity.
I very much hope you decide to stay in F1. I firmly believe there’s an F1 drivers championship waiting for you.
You do have the moral high ground at the moment and I hope you and your management take advantage of it via:- either getting RBR to give you a 2 year extension to your contract with the proviso of joint no.1 status – or a move to a competive team with the same sort of agreement.
I’m just guessing here but I’d like to imagine your management having a quiet word with teams now for 2014. Should a deal be forthcoming then you’d be completely free to ignore any team orders with RBR for the rest of the 2013 season! Good luck with whatever you decide. FRED. -
Gordon
on March 26, 2013You and Seb are equally good drivers, but we know now who has the better character!
The season is yours Mark, keep fighting
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fiona c
on March 26, 2013The first reason why they limit the number of engines, gear boxes and tyres in a single season is to keep the overall cost of F1 to the minimum. When the running cost is down, then it will bring the performance difference from the big budget and the small budget teams down. Therefore we can have more exciting F1 racing. Because the teams can allocate more of their sponsored money into R&D, instead of putting too much money solely for the manufacturing of parts.
The second reason is that the more R&D the teams do, then they can develop or further improve technologies which can be used on our road cars, such as Honda VTEC, turbo, double wishbone suspension, carbon fiber, titanium, aero dynamics, etc. That is why they keep making the engine smaller, from v10 to v8, then next year v6 turbo. All of these are meant to make f1 racing more relevant to our road cars, except that they will always be open wheelers.
The third reason for keeping the cost down is to welcome more manufacturers into the sport of F1, since the cost of the sport has been kept a lot lower than the last decade. This will further create more competitive racing for the fans, with different engine manufacturers, and things like that.
All the above reasons will create a positive cycle to make F1 even better. Therefore in the Malay race, team orders from red bull to nurse the cars is completely understandable. It is only the beginning of the season, and in that race since Webber had been leading comfortably from Vettel for so long, there were only a few more laps to finish, and Hamilton and Nico were way off the pace. There was absolutely no reason to floor the cars to its maximum capability, and risk both the reliability of the cars and the safety of the drivers. If I am the team principle, I would do the very same thing for sure. -
Francisco
on March 26, 2013Hi man, hello from Brazil!! Keep focus and everything will be ok, you did great at Sepang! Nice race, Nice pace, great start. You Really deserve the win. Don’t worry about this one, god bless you, and Keep Climbing! 😉
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David Walter
on March 26, 2013Well Mark, It just means that from now on, its gloves off and may the best man win!! No team orders to follow, as they are not adhered to or honoured by Vettel. You need to be more ruthless and think more about you from here on in, and less about covering Vettel and the team. They obviously don’t deserve you and don’t have the same regard for you. You have moral fibre, Vettel only see’s the win at all costs.
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Alan Stafford
on March 26, 2013Mr Horner and Team owner need to appreciate that the Team is multiple World Champions because of Mark’s contribution. Vettel is a one man show. To publicly demonstrate Team contrition the total winner’s cheque should be presented to Mark by Seb in a very public attempt at apology and team bonding. Seb should also transfer a winning lead to Mark in this year’s event, in an obvious manner. That would seal the apology. Mr. Vettel must quickly learn he is an important member of a very large team, all of whom rely on publicity of the better nature.
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Days of Thunder
on March 26, 2013this situation reminds me of the movie days of thunder , marks been there since the beginning and now “russ wheeler – vettel” has become the badguy we all know he’s been the whole time , dont this this distract you mark , you beat “russ wheeler – vettel” fair and square in malaysia and i think that he didnt like it at all to be beaten by you so keep doing what your doing mark and do not let this affect you in any way , business as usual and keep focused on your main goal mark , its only round 2 and you should have won the race so lets go to china and get some points in the bank , you can never have enough points , and remain focus on the main objective , your going to do it mark 🙂
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Dylan
on March 26, 2013I think that vettles decision was not at all fair to his team mate and this deepens my dislike for vettle. I do continue to support red bull and mark webber as my top driver. keep up the good work mark and maybe next time you’ll take the race. 🙂
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Daniel
on March 26, 2013All said and done it was a great start, some great passing and great defending when vettel attacked. its bitter sweet but you got the best out of a crappy situation. If you or he had have collided you would have come off second best. if you didnt you loose the place you still come off second best. At least throual of it you came off looking like a better person.
Well done for being an outstanding sportsman and karma has a funny way of coming back around. perhaps later int he season instead of helping vettel by holding a rival back he will pass you easily. what goes around comes around and the season is early and you have a competitive car in the best team on pit lane. keep chipping away mark the seasons early -
Syd R
on March 26, 2013I’m disgusted that the team management allowed the situation to happen. Unless they stop their favoritism, their unbalanced treatment reflects badly upon the company and upon its products. I for one, will vote with my dollar and no longer support them.
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fiona c
on March 26, 2013I guess Marko wasn’t purposely favour vettel from the very beginning, but because vettel is from germany europe, and webber is from australia, so in terms of overall marketing power to size of target audience, vettel is indeed many many times bigger than webber. And further, vettel is 11 years younger than webber, so vettel has an absolute advantage marketing wise. And we have to understand that the whole idea of sponsoring a racing team is to ultimately advertise their brand name and products, which is the red bull energy drinks. But it has been more and more apparent that the vettel’s favouritism is over the line.
In my opinion, Vettel is indeed a very fast driver, not saying he is the fastest out there, but one of the fastest. But in terms of luck then I think he must be the luckiest f1 driver in the past 10 years.
1. He could have the chance to drive one of the fastest cars on the grid at such a young age
2. Major accidents free, therefore injury free (look at webber’s injury from Tasmania, and the flying spring hitting massa in the head who only missed to win the championship by 1 point in that previous year)
3. Vettel won in 2010 when webber and Alonzo were stuck behind slower cars due to poor pit strategy in the last race of the year
4. A new tyre manufacturer comes in 2011, no one was able to manage the new tyres as no one had any data, but only vettel could manage that new tyres, it was like the tyres were tailor made to suit vettel’s liking and driving style. He won like 4-5 races in the first 6 races or something, it was unbelievable. I guess you can say he has got talent, but is he really that much a better driver than all the others that no one else could manage the tyres. Or is it pure luck that the tyres were designed in a way that they ended up to only suit vettel’s liking.
5. In 2012, webber was ahead of vettel in the championship before mid year break, but after the break, webber had like 5-6 races where he had kers problem, or even to retire due to accidents he didn’t cause, etc. Vettel was driving the same car but no such problem, or at least very few of those problems
6. Vettel were only able to win in 2012 because webber let vettel passed in the last race, then later Michael also helped vettel to achieve those extra few points to beat Alonzo at the end. Dont forget Michael is also a german driver, and the last 2 years before he retired for the first time, Alonzo won those 2 years, so I am sure Michael would rather want vettel to win than Alonzo.
7. Mclaren starts to supply the ECU to all the teams from 2013, at the very first race of the year in Melbourne, webber is the only car had an ECU problem and needed to be reset, it happens in the warm up lap, so it was seconds before the actual start of the race, webber had no chance to get it fixed in time for the race start, how unlucky is that. And later he had a kers problem.
8. Melbourne ECU and kers problem, malay unfair overtake from vettel, the first 2 races this year have been very bad luck for webber -
Niko
on March 26, 2013Put it down to experience Mark (a bad one) don’t quit, get out there for the rest of the season and fix the egotistical smart arse up on the track. I’m betting you have a few more fans in the RB garage now. No more Mr Nice Guy, stick it up him.
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AS147
on March 26, 2013It doesn’t matter what we say to Seb here. What “may” matter is some form of mass messaging to RedBull. It goes against their corporate image to constrain drivers and then allow someone to break the rules in front of millions of viewers. It is as if red Bull a multi billion dollar organisation can’t control their employees.
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Glenn K
on March 26, 2013Mark, you may have had the win stolen from you, but as many people have noted, your dignity and composure remained totally intact despite it. Though it may be small consolation, I’m sure you’ve gained as many fans out if this as Vettel has lost. Keep fighting the good fight and we’ll all be cheering you along all the way.
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Sandra
on March 26, 2013Huge Respect for you and for your integrity and dignity . None for Vettel … .
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wendy priest
on March 26, 2013Karma, what goes around comes around. Just win the WDC fair and square. You don’t need to cheat to win unlike your unscrupulous team mate
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Bill
on March 26, 2013Mark that was a fantastic effort, its a long season, stay focussed and show everyone what you are capable off. Vettel won the race but lost all credibility, he owes you, the team and the sponsors big. He is the ultimate looser.
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Tom
on March 26, 2013Honorable GP Mark regardless of the result. An Honorable 2nd will always be far more respected then a dishonorable 1st.
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mandy
on March 26, 2013There is now doubt about Seb, he is right now world class and world best driver but his Sunday’s behavior was not fair,he should be mature about his behavior as well as aggressiveness. Mark you are great guy as know world please accept the apology of vettel once again.
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Clinton Holloway
on March 26, 2013steve… unsportsman like behaviour will not be forgotten…. remeber all of shumacher’s antics, and then his unsuccessful return confirms hes not superb… tarnished forever…. (remember hitler aswell)….. but amazing to think two races ago mark moved over to assist vettel’s fight for the championship…. great way to keep the team harmonious seb dog…vettel is exchanging satistics for decency, respect and virtue…. number ten will come soon for mark and he wont listen when the team says turn engine down, bring it home or agree to any type of strategy before the race…mutli 21 my [site manager edit]….! go mark, dont get frustrated, use your experience and free will and just own that spoiled little shit…
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jay
on March 26, 2013In response to “eagle” above; you miss the point entirely; Mark was told to turn down his engine, THAT IS WHY VETTEL GOT PAST HIM! No one, PARTICULARLY MARK, wants a trophy handed to him! Although, there might be one driver who wouldn’t care how he got the prize…
Apropos Vettel’s apologia; what a carefully PR crafted response! It REEKS of PR manipulation and insincerity! Vettel’s ego is as monstrous as it is immature. I have totally lost what little respect I had for him as a driver. By the way, does anyone know what businesses the team owner has, because everyone should steer clear of them, maybe then he will contemplate his mistake in giving Vettel total protection from censure, and possibly realize this sport isn’t for the soul aggrandisement of his little ‘German trophy puppy’!!! -
Damo
on March 26, 2013I have no respect for vettel… No kids should look up to him or his poor sportsmanship… Hey red bull… You really should have a good look at yourselves… You do damage to our brand with that little german
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smurfo
on March 26, 2013you should have taken the ferrari option mark,
at least alonso is a true champ,red bull are a bunch of self absorbed one diamentional imbosiles.I hope next time (well all season) you stick it to that german shit,and in the immortal words of the late great aussie rules footballer ted whitten,”stick it up em” -
michael
on March 26, 2013no teamorders = no trouble ….the past show us that real champions cant respekt that bs. it kills the sport.thats not your fault,c .horner is responsible 4 that mess.
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Anci
on March 26, 2013Mark, YOU are the best!!!!!!
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Harald
on March 26, 2013Lächerliche Zensur … ihr seit genau so arm, wie die jenigen, die meinen Boxenorder wäre Racing. Traut euch wohl nicht, eine ernsthafte Meinung stehen zu lassen. Feiglinge !
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maddog
on March 26, 2013steve says it. It’s a win and anger will be forgotten. Shame our society only recognises wins and competitive manipulative bastards. Take schumacer – great driver but a cheat too!
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Clem
on March 26, 2013You won the race mark your little upstart mate simply got the few extra points
For those that had any respect for vettel let this prove what sort of sportsman he really is
Here’s hoping its only the year of the snake for Chinese and not vettel
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Marion Hurst
on March 26, 2013Huge admiration for how you handled yourself in Malaysia Mark. Badly done by Red Bull and their pet weasel. I hope they will do the right thing and support the real hero.
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stuart
on March 26, 2013what it boils down to, is the German marketplace, huge, 80 million people
When Vettel wins, things sell, from German cars to newspapers. It is all abt money, and Ego Post Vettel Tolles A New Earth , somebody
Nothing must get in the way of his winning
Someone said he is the best, not really he is just a bit crazier -
Susie
on March 26, 2013I have lost any respect I had for Vettel. Mark showed what a true sportmnan and great driver he is.
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Rune Abrahamsson
on March 26, 2013Mark
Well done Mark
Before i like Vettel ,but when he dont listen to team order he is nothing for me anymore.
I hope that you,Mark take the championship this year,and wish you good luck.
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Clinton Holloway
on March 26, 2013i agree with stuart… hes not the best but he IS a bit crazier, more selfish, has no respect for anyone in the team (except helmut asskiss), sooks when hes not leading… despicable…! I’d leave to the top shelf to mabye lewis or alonso, but of course mark only gets rare opportunities to show his hand when the team cant ensure vettels in front of him…I also believe webber has worked the hardest of any of the drivers to earn a spot in a top team….marko even said webber is unbeatable for an average of two races a season… lets see if that number grows now that team orders are optional…
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Matthew
on March 26, 2013Mark, any sport throws it’s high’s and low’s.
I hope you soon experience the same elation of your first GP victory in Germany, or your victory in Britain 2010 – perhaps by coming out on top in a genuine contest v Seb. No team orders. -
**** Webber
on March 26, 2013VETTEL ist the best!!!!
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Todd
on March 26, 2013It was your on Sunday Mark, as Kerry Packer once said, “Don’t get even, get better!!!!”. I know you dont need to be told,there’s a long season ahead, focus this energy.
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gill powell
on March 26, 2013I lost respect for Vettel on sunday, as did many people. The win would have been Marks an d Vettel showed no care about anyone apart from himself. Gill
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gill powell
on March 26, 2013No mrespect at all now for Vettel i’m sorry to say. Mark was the best man and Vettel acted like a spoilt child.
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graham robinson
on March 26, 2013i have just watched the grand prix on bbc 1 that race was yours he had no need to do what he did it would be nice if you was treated as a equal but it shows you are not i am a lotus renault fan but i do like to watch good racing and i do not mind who wins and that should have been you good luck for the rest of season
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Michael Clark
on March 26, 2013Mark I really do feel for you. I was away skiing and had only noticed the result and not read the report. Having watched the race in full I was disgusted and still feel that way now. I don’t want to bleat on like ‘poor me’ but how I hope you kick his backside and put him firmly in his place. You have got class Mark that is so evident and I follow your progress at all times. All the best Mark, keep plugging away.
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Knuckles
on March 26, 2013I believe the only honourable, salvageable thing that Red Bull can do to satisfactorily placate Mark Webber is the following – Red Bull need to clearly announce that, as disciplinary action against Seb Vettel, for this season, Mark Webber is their number one driver and Red Bull’s primary focus will be on him, and all benefits and priorities previously heaped on Vettel, will be Mark’s. Let’s face it, Mark has likely only 2-3 seasons left, Vettel likely has 10+. One year of humble pie will make him a better person. This will either a) teach Sebastian Vettel some humility, discipline, morality, integrity, honesty and respect, sadly lacking currently, (and therefore make him controllable), or he will b)disobey orders again and be subject to strict disciplinary action. Anything else is both an insult to Mark and Team Management / orders and continues to give Vettel an open licence to continue to disrespect his Team Management and team mates. Take a stand Red Bull. Make a decent man out of Vettel. Spoiling him only increases his childish, petulant behaviour
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Knuckles
on March 26, 2013BTW, Vettel’s fan-site is like a ghost town since Malaysia. Lots of deleted posts, including mine. I was in no way disrespectful, abusive or rude, I simply expressed my “Extreme disappointment” that any person with any sense of morality or integrity would do such a thing to a team mate that was clearly the better driver on the day. I did mention that, to my children, he was a practical example of how not to disrespect your Employer or work colleagues
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Trav
on March 26, 2013hi Mark
how bout getting some Multi21 tshirts printed for your fans….i reckon they would be the biggest sellers of all time….classic. Hey Seb…multi21…multi21
Hey Seb…eat a bag of ****!!
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Trav
on March 26, 2013…i still cant believe how smug Seb is
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Dave
on March 27, 2013Mark Webber has class & is a sportsman, Vettel is just a selfish child, Christian Horner is a p****… I heard him say stay behind Webber, I didn’t hear him say let him back through… My boss tells not to do something & I choose to do it, I get the sack ! Keep up the good work Mark…!
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brc
on March 27, 2013Chin up Mark, you know you were the better driver, the better sportsman and the better person on the day. Vettel just lost a lot of fans for being a very poor loser, and making it worse by pretending he didn’t know what was going on like a spoiled child. He will learn, and you should be the one to teach him.
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David Barker
on March 27, 2013I have followed your progress for years Mark, and admired the way you go about your business…..not just racing, but also your spectacular fundraising for charity through the Mark Weber Challenge.
You are a bench-mark for honesty and effort, so don’t sink to the depths of the Prat-fuhrer….. simply change teams, at a time of your convenience, to your benefit.
This has happened before and as you said on the podium, Vettell will always be protected, time to move on.
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RI Surf
on March 27, 2013Atta boy Mark…back on the horse now!!
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Tommy
on March 27, 2013Starts Wins Poles SR
198 9 11 14Respect Mark.
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Senna
on March 27, 2013Of course this is markwebber.com but don’t demonize Seb too quickly. He did just what many racing drivers would do. They are hungry for winning and that’s the spirit of racing. Think about it, if you were driving right behind your team mate (at the same time team mate is also your worst enemy and toughest competitor inside the team) and you know you could get the victory and score maximum points out of it… wouldn’t you just step on the accelerator and wave the sucker you are passing good-bye? Schumi would do so, Prost would do so, Senna would do so… and guess what? They are all F1 champs, more than once!
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foxkorner
on March 27, 2013may i remind Mark about silverstone 2011 and interlagos 2012?
Mark happy with his denial of team order and vettel just keep calm and just fine…
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Mark Webber Site Manager
on March 27, 2013You forgot Turkey 2010…
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psycho budgie
on March 27, 2013You owe Red Bull nothing, Vettel less than nothing, just make the best decision for yourself mate and go for it. Stick it up Marco once and for all.
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Juan Mejia
on March 27, 2013I think Mark know that Vettel is German and that how they are.
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Scott stephenson
on March 27, 2013Just echoing the majority of comments so far, Mark, you are the better and bigger man, you deserved it and it was yours, even after he passed you, you played a team game and the greatest respect to you for doing that. Seb acted like a spoilt child and I thought his apology rang very hollow then and still does now, we all know life is not fair but, you played fair and we all saw it, good on you.
Take heart from all the fans ( even a mclaren fanatic as I am) and feel as proud about yourself and your achievements as we all do.
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Imre
on March 27, 2013Vettel had a victory and lost thousands of fans. It was disgusting. I would immediately leave this “team”.
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John
on March 27, 2013“The team radioed me about four times, asking that I maintain the gap to Seb,” confirmed Webber. “But I wasn’t happy with that because you should never give up in F1, so I continued to push. If Fernando (Alonso) had retired on the last lap, we would have been battling for the lead.
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patrick
on March 27, 2013Mark u r a true gentleman. Its a pity u have a spoil brat as a team mate.I blame the team for making him feel like he is indispensable. Fight on bro.
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Murray Cobban
on March 27, 2013Sorry that Vettel Racing … oops … sorry… Red Bull Racing let you down AGAIN on Sunday! Keep your chin up mate, you’ll come out of this with the Kudos and Vettel with yet more egg on his arrogant little head! 🙂
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Ricardo "Mozambike"
on March 27, 2013Mark you are as an admirable person and I admire you as a great driver you are. You’re above all this…
I am Portuguese living in Mozambique, and I did not lose a race yours. You’re my champ!
GooGoo Mark* -
Uge
on March 27, 2013Hola Mark.
Creo que Vettel es un egoista y que la disculpa no es de corazon.
Apartir de ahora a por el (y a por los demas, claro) -
Nico Beerepoot
on March 27, 2013Rise above it Mark.Just focus on some win’s this year and kick some ass
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stuart
on March 27, 2013Next time I am in De. which will be in June, I would like to meet this Marko chap.
I would not be rude, but I would sit him down and try to show him ,just what he is missing.
I know MK follows Le Tour and I would like to catch up there too.
If you read these things MW, get your site manager to point you up here. Near to Mooloolaba, but roos come into the garden, private
Cook you some scrambled eggs, plenty of room
Tell you all abt my ride on a 1200gt BMW across States, 14000km in 6 weeks. Now there’s a crowd that can’t drive:)) Keep smiling feller -
Col Williamson
on March 27, 2013You can’t blame drivers for being drivers however the blame for this scenario is Dr Helmut Marko. Granted SV did not follow orders and this is guilty as charged your honour.
There is another apology that should be made to MW from Dr. H. Marko , I have not seen any response from this person on the happenings in Sepang.
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TRICKO
on March 27, 2013pass me my angry trousers i’m madder than i’ve ever been.Horner needs to man up and hit this boy vettel WHERE IT HURTS suspend him from china race,that is surely the only thing that would make him realise how bad his decision was.he’s all about the points and that would crucify him.but lets face it horners a greedy git and will want the constructors title,i fear he will be a laughing stock if he doesnt assert authority now. On another note imagine the fuss if it had been the other way round i,m sure there have been countless times mark has had to obey orders to look after twat features.Maintain the Gap springs to mind!! I’m sure he would have received a serious penalty from the team if he had done it,but guess what now he can apparently u dont have to follow team orders at RBR.like J Herbert said sorry mate but i’ve got the 25 points now and nothing matters,and i suppose to vettel the team doesnt matter either he wasnt thinking of bringing the car home for the team he was thinking points for me!! lets face it he only got past cos u turned your engine down like you were told.he’d been whingeing all the race saying get mark ou the way i’m faster.WELL WHY DIDNT HE JUST GO PAST THEN IF HE WAS SO MUCH FASTER.oh thats right Mark was the better driver on the day so he couldnt!!!!!! please dont leave F1 your to good to stop.just get that git next time maybe play along with the whole team orders thing then kick his arse.lets hope he’s bolloxed his engine for the next race.COME ON THE WEBBER!!! Lots of luck from hampshire
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Lisa
on March 27, 2013Watched the race again and get so upset of the little spoiled brat Vettel! You go Mark, I’d love to see you or Kimi to take the title this year!
Because you’re worth it and both know how to race in an honest way, I always support clever and lojal drivers.I’m not a team Red Bull F1 supporter anymore as from today.
I don’t se how Vettel missed this is a team championship in the first hand and a drivers in the sacond. Says quite lot of him… And I feel sorry for the management whom obviously can’t control the little spoiled one….
Lots of love from Sweden! <3 -
Simon
on March 27, 2013Keep your chin up Mark!
You connect with us because you show emotion. Your instinctive response to winning your first GP was inspirational! -
clinton holloway
on March 27, 2013I also wanted to mention to everyone that webber’s victory at the nurberg this year is going to be a sweet one….!
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Scoobs
on March 27, 2013Mark – You won that race. You don’t need the trophy to say so. Feel it in your heart and speak it in your mind. You are a brilliant sportsman and I thank you for being an incredible inspiration for my children when so many of our sportsman fall short these days. My children and I watch you every race, yelling support at the TV. We are yelling for you now Mark. Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! Oi Oi Oi.
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Clem
on March 27, 2013Heard there is a new energy drink on the market
It’s call the Vettel
1 and you are a arrogant shit
2 and you behave like a little shit
3 and you don’t give a shitHave a VETTEL and become a shit!
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jimmy
on March 27, 2013Vettel is an AS$
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clinton holloway4
on March 27, 2013SENNA….The fact that u call yourself that and that u didnt watch the race indicates that you are a clueless idiot…. If the racers were in fact doing “what many race drivers would do” then mark wouldnt have slowed down or backed off for team orders/strategy. He fought with vettel during the race and sebastian couldnt pass him until it was unexpected and unauthorised… SENNA u need to actually watch an f1 GP and get an understanding about the sport before making comments that are uninformed and clueless…! and who class themselves SENNA? wake up to yourself.
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Rabbit
on March 27, 2013Mark, I take my hat off to you – in the eyes of the public you are a true gentleman! I hope my 7 year old son (who has just taken up karting) takes a leaf out of your book!
If I could say one thing to Red Bull it would be SACK SEB!!!!!!
I don’t know how you can sit back and watch those people give that spoilt brat everything that they do over and above what you get! You have been with Red Bull for an awful long time, drive absolutely awesome – and what do you get in return? TEAM ORDERS and subsequently miss out on a win because those TEAM ORDERS aren’t enforced! It would be a completely different situation if it had of been in reverse wouldn’t it!?! -
Admansta
on March 27, 2013Mark you are true class. Don’t let this incident pull you down.
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Damian
on March 27, 2013Vettel is a stubborn little girl. He is not a team player. He plays for the Item. Don’t think nothing of this.. keep fighting. We all know who won the race and at the end of the season if thease points that he gained last weekend make all the difference. HE WILL HAVE NO FANS. I never liked him. Keep fighting,
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Jake
on March 27, 2013Great race Mark.You know what you have to do.You have to do it on the track, just think about front wing incident.
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Kahlil
on March 27, 2013Hi Mark,
You are a true Aussie, true blue and a true champion driver. Vettell will have to live it down and that will not happen anytime soon. Keep on keeping on! -
blake tulloch
on March 27, 2013Don’t give up mate, your right up there and so close, it’s a winning team you can win a championship, holding on to negatives can have effect on oneself, all of us Australians are proud of what you have acheived, best of luck with the rest of the season
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Marsh
on March 27, 2013Vettel is a spoilt kid that Can drive. He showed he is comfortable with unsportsmanlike behaviour.
You don’t ever see a player in any sport tackle his own teammate to take victory. I’m a big fan Mark, even bigger now that I have seen you tell it black and white. I think you would look great in Red and I hope to see you teamed up with Alonso one day. I too will not support RB if they let Sebastian get away with theft. -
Manuel
on March 27, 2013Mark just race mate. Forget the team and team orders. They don’t exist. If sebs ahead hunt him down and don’t stop until your in front or you both unfortunately take each other out. You want to race unrestricted. You have your chance, make the most of it and good luck for the rest of the season. Manny
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Andrew L
on March 27, 2013The true measure of a champion is his integrity and ability to inspire. Mark has both in spades.
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Marc
on March 27, 2013Mark, your latest decision is the right move – leave the snake in the pit.
So what’s Mr Horner going to do about Seb’s defiance of team orders? Probably nothing as Vettel is a spoilt schoolgirl being pandered to. While he’s at it, he may as well do away with team orders – obviously they’re meaningless.
Mark, I have been a big fan of you and RBR but now I’m still only a fan of yours and hope that RBR racing has a successful season just so you can further your YOUR career. You’re a great sportsman. You may have lost one race but gained even more respect from fans around the planet. RACE ON MATE! -
Ed
on March 27, 2013Well handled Mark. Good luck with the rest of the season. Give ’em hell.
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Heather
on March 27, 2013Forget the apologies, they’re all after thoughts. Red Bull step up and assert your authority if you really have that is and deal out harsh punishment. You’re just as much to blame for pampering to a spoiled little boy. The outcome could have been both drivers off the track. Would you be saying bad little boy don’t do that again? I doubt it, so show some respect for Mark and take action against your pampered, spoiled little brat.
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Warren
on March 27, 2013I absolute love watching Mark racing.
F1 is about a team attacking the F1 championship. No one person can do it with out a team yet one guy in the Red Bull team thinks its all about him and him alone.
Sorry Seb, its not just about you.
With Vettel in the team, upon Mark moving on, while the money on offer to a new driver will be beyond question the best, (better than the number 1 in other teams) who wants Marks old seat when they know with come a clause attached that says your not allowed to finish ahead of your team mate.
Christian Horne has created an out of control brat who may kill someone if he is not controlled.
Mark you make me proud, thanks for flying the flag.
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Mn1
on March 27, 2013Great drive..keep punching.
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Mike
on March 27, 2013RBR could have easily told SV to give up the spot but they didn’t.
That makes them as guilty as SV in my books.
Show them up this season Mark.
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james
on March 27, 2013Hey Mark, well done to how you handled all this unwanted crap caused by your so called team mate. A true indication of just how piss poor Christian stands up as a boss and no doubt Vettel has lost all respect if he had any. Keep pushing hard mate, good luck for the year and we all wish you the best
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harry
on March 27, 2013Mark, you know you will not win your fight and you will end up like Irvine, Barrichello and Massa. But you are not such a puppet that’s why you fight and I don’t understand why don’t you quit being humilated and go for a team where you can bring in your experience and enjoy racing..maybe not winning but in RB they don’t let you win neither
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Derek Neale
on March 27, 2013For Mark,
Given the way Vettel acted in Malaya, I think he has set his mind on how he is going to react for the rest of the season.
I think you should now drive your own race as it is quite clear Vettel is out to win a third championship at any cost.
You took the mature view and action to ensure the team ended up with 2 cars over the line.
Vettel’s arrogance and attitude is now out in the open, he will do it again!
This is not the first time his arrogance has been demonstrated and next time treat him like you would a driver from another team when you are fighting for position.
Best of luck for the season.
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German
on March 27, 2013The second place is not bad for the second driver
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Mark Webber Site Manager
on March 27, 2013I think you’ve missed the point here somewhat…
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Wesley
on March 27, 2013I am proud of you Mark. You did a great qualifying, superb start and tried to defend yourself very well during the unfortunate pass of Vettel. You behaved yourself as a winner dealing with this unlucky situation. You’re my number 1 and I hope the rest of the season may bring more joy to you & your family.
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Trav
on March 27, 2013WHATS RED BULL GOING TO DO HERE…THEY SHOULD STAND SEB DOWN FOR A RACE!!!
SCHUEY WAS A GREAT DRIVER LIKE SEB….BUT THEIR BOTH DIRTY [site manager edit]….IF THEY CANT WIN THE RIGHT WAY THEY GO [site manager edit]…AND ENDANGER LIVES AND THEIR TEAM RESULTS. KNOW ONE LIKES A SPOILT BRAT…AND THATS SEB TO A TEE. AND ANOTHER THING….PLEASE [site manager edit] MARKO OFF OUTA THA TEAM….THE WAY HE SPOKE OUT ABOUT MARK BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED WAS DISGUSTING. FOR [site manager edit] SAKE DIETRICH STEP IN AND FIRE MARKO!!! -
Andy
on March 27, 2013Fantastic drive Mark you are the real winner. Sebastian is running Red Bull now and no one there has the spine to stop him.
Get out and a join a team that deserves your pure speed, skill and ability.
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Trav
on March 27, 2013IM P****D OFF….WHO DOES CHRISTIAN HORNER THINK HES TALKING TO WHEN HE SAYS TO THE PUBLIC THAT THERE WAS NO POINT TELLING SEB TO GIVE THE SPOT BACK TO MARK….I MEAN COME ON …..YOUR THE [site manager edit] BOSS CHRISTIAN. [site manager edit]
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Trav
on March 27, 2013I THINK SEB HAS MADE THE ULTIMATE MISTAKE YOU CAN MAKE IN WORLD SPORT…..RULE NUMBER ONE..”DONT [site manager edit] WITH AN AUSSIE!!”
AUSSIE GRIT…YOU KNOW IT….BRING IT ON SEB…BRING IT ON. 2013 IS WEBBERS YEAR!!!
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Glenn
on March 27, 2013Vettel’s actions put me in mind of another recent outstanding German driver name of Schumacher. As good as he was he was unable to keep himself from pulling unsportsman like stunts at the expense of other competitors. I have to admit that I never liked Schuy especially when he talked, it was like butter would melt in his mouth. I must also admit that my taste in drivers are more in the form of Button, Webber, Massa, etc., you know those who may not be considered to be the ‘stars’ of their teams but are blessed with a work ethic which is inspirational. When these guys win a race or out perform their prima dona team mates, that makes the race for me.
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berni
on March 28, 2013Will someone send all the above to Horner .
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Andy
on March 28, 2013Found it was brilliant racing from both, a superp fight and for all NO CRASH. Thats we want to see.
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Lisa Bond
on March 28, 2013Unacceptable behaviour from Vettel. I’m all for racing ’til the end but team orders are team orders and a driver cannot defend himself to his full potential if he is of the belief that his team mate has been told to hold fire. Mark, you deserved the win and the majority will be of that opinion. Unfortunately, it cannot be taken back now. Focus on the rest of the season and kick Vettel’s butt!!
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gail hebditch
on March 28, 2013felt so sorry for mark typical though vettel german reminds me of the schumacher days where he got away with most things who does vettel think he is god.
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Bill G
on March 28, 2013What an arrogant little P**** that german really is! I never ever liked him He’s the same as that other german “cheat” Shumacher. What is it with these people? As for Horner and Newey They both need to grow a pair but they’re so afraid of losing points! But they may lose more than points out of this in the long run, as I will never buy another RB product as long as I live and neither should any one else who has respect for Mark W’
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Franz
on March 28, 2013change to Mercedes and beat him on the track
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The Bear
on March 28, 2013Mark Webber Stand Tall! In the face of one of the worst exhibitions of bad sportsmanship and arrogant disregard for the entire team by SV, you acquitted yourself with dignity and integrity! You are to be commended. Proud to be an Aussie and and a Mark Webber Fan!
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Bear
on March 28, 2013Come on Christian, grow some balls! Are you the boss or the babysitter?? How can you as the boss of a multi million dollar F1 team allow your orders to be flouted so arrragantly like that?? You should order SV to hand over a winning lead to MW and if he refuses then suspend him until he follows orders!! If you do not correct this, you insult and dishonour every red bull fan and supporter!! SV dishonoured our sport today – showing total disregard for team, teammatesand fans. Disgusted in him. Proud of you Mark – your class, integrity and honour are a credit to you>
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Rod Martin
on March 28, 2013Vettel cheated to win! It wasn’t just disobeying team orders that meant Vettel was able to pass Webber. Some might think hes faster than Webber thats why he past him. But Webber had turned his engine down making it a unfair fight. Vettel should have at least showed his hand and told the team he was going to race so Mark had the opportunity to decide whether he turned down the engine or raced him. My guess is Mark would have raced even if it meant burning out both of their tyres and not finishing. Mark would preferred a chance at a fair race rather than second.
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foxkorner
on March 28, 2013at least, sebs brave to say sorry and not happy with what happened. not with Mark on 2011-2012. Mark too selfish when ignored team order and had no regret about that. Turkish 2010 was no order by the team, they fought on their on way.
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Natan
on March 28, 2013What kind of crap is that ?
Does Vettel or Christian
think that we all stupid ?
It is first of all managers team fault .
He is let to kid do whatever he want and then he cam with excuse about !!!
Common Mark lets take P1 you deserve it !
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Vic Bradley
on March 28, 2013The only reason that we are all talking this way is because Vettel got past Mark,…because he let him! He was not prepared to wreck the team effort that made them 1-2 in the race by potentially putting them both in the gravel but Vettel was, who is the biggest risk to Red Bull success?
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clinton holloway
on March 28, 2013I just noticed FOXKORNER’S comment… at interlagos 2012 mark actually moved over to assist vettels championship…thats after taking a shunt from koboyashi as well… the sign of a sportsman… two races later look at vettel’s form… people like yourself need to start watching f1… its frustrating trying to communitcate with invalids
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Peter Thorpe
on March 28, 2013Money and pets. MARK lets go racing. No more team orders you know and I know how many times you could of and would of been in front if it wasnt for management and their pet.
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stuart
on March 28, 2013I think people such as German in here, do not quite get what makes a GREAT driver
Some of the qualities needed
1 A superb driver, MK is
2 A wonderful personality , such as MK, Button Massa, in this comp, and Moss, Clarke, Stewart in bygone times
3 The respect of your peers and the crowd, Vettel lost those , it was doubtful if he ever had peer respect in the beginning
4 Modesty, charm, wit, courage
You can be GREAT as was Moss, the best, but he was the best , never to have won a drivers Championship
SV is smart in other ways, multilingual, but very churlish, petulant and immature in other ways
Maybe his parents never showed him the way, who knows.There are many reasons
But keep it reasonable here, some of the censored posts , lower the tone of this site:)
I thought SV had made some progress with his maturity, but , whoops back to the creche
Whatever, there will be more fallout for sure
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CLIFF WALTON
on March 28, 2013VETTEL DOES NOT DESERVE TO SCORE ANY MORE POINTS THIS SEASON.HE IS A SELFISH,ARROGANT NON-TEAM PLAYING,PATRONIZING EXCREMENT HEAD AND SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT IF HE TRIED TO PASS YOU. YOU CAN’T RELY ON CHRISTIAN HORNER TO BACK YOU, ALL THAT COME FROM HIS MOUTH IS FALSE PROMISES OF BOTH DRIVERS HAVING EQUAL BACKING, VETTEL IS ALWAYS NO1 IN HIS EYES. MARK YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN DRIVE FOR A TEAM THAT DOES NOT REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AS A GREAT DRIVER YOU ARE.
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Mike G
on March 28, 2013Interested to know if the inside white line on any one of the pit lane exits is designated as the track limit. SV clearly puts all 4 wheels over the line to gain an advantage, is this not against the rules and deserves a penalty??
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Rick
on March 28, 2013Got to feel sorry for Mark, having to work for a spineless wimp like Christian. You create the sensible rule and then don’t have the balls to enforce it. Ever felt betrayed ?? Tut, tut, naughty, naughty, Seb. Applaud his lack of integrity through your lack of action. What team rules? Obviously Sebastian Vettel rules. You are wrong to think that race fans only remember winners. Just as with Michael Schumacher, he was an egotistical cheating a***hole, so with Sebastian Vettel, and if Red Bull applauds that by omission, it owns it and will lose my respect and admiration (and countless thousands of others) in response. Red Bull management still has the opportunity to recover this if it so wishes. I won’t be holding my breath. Pathetic.
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Louis van Eijk
on March 28, 2013Mark, next time show that german who’s the real champion. Vettel is and will always stay a real german. Me, me, me and for the rest, we’ll see. What goes he is exactly the same as Schumacher. Only thinking about his own profit and honor. You are good enough for himto help him if he needs you. Don’t. Show us all who’s the real Red Bull no.1 driver. Success next race Marc.
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Trav
on March 28, 2013i cant wait for the next race!…its gona be pandamonium when Mark wins next!!!!
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Bob
on March 28, 2013Mark, your attitude and sportsmanship show the world the sort of man you are.The same cannot be said for your team or teammate. My small protest will be to avoid all products produced by sponsors of red bull racing and vettel.
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karlinoz
on March 28, 2013Mark belted Seb in every possible way until the last stop and we all know what both drivers were told to do for good reason after that.
Great race Mark.
Forget about this
“I need to think about my future in F1” bullshit. Keep up the intensity and focus on getting the # 1 on the side of your car.As a very proud Aussie who knows a little bit about how hard you’ve had to fight to get where you are, I’ll be throwing punches if you throw in the towel now or anytime in the next few years.
Cheers Karl
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Johnny Wow
on March 28, 2013As well as Aussies being proud of your actions, I can tell you that there are a lot of poms over here very respectful of you for the way you handled the situation. Keep calm and please don’t lower yourself to the level of those with no honour.
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TRICKO
on March 28, 2013great to see such support for MW i feel poor sebs brain has been addled the whole team seems to be seb seb seb.look at the way the team cheered in the garage last year when Mark crashed with perez and grosjean one guy had to hit the other to shut him up prob realised the world were watching.How i would hate to be Mark coming in for a pit stop and not knowing if they were going to do the best for u.i also feel seb has had it drummed into him he is some sort of god!!FROM THAT OLD GIT MARKO problems stem from him he is so blatantly against Mark get him out of the garage!!!!! Lets not forget SV only won the drivers chship last year because the cheating schuey LET HIM PASS and this year[god forbid] if he wins again it will be tainted with this disgusting display at Malaysia i certainly dont feel he’s won 3 last years was alonsos he was the better driver.RULES ARE RULES same for everyone MARK WEBBER NEEDS TO KICK HIS ARSE OFF THE TRACK AND ON IT.
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ardoise
on March 29, 2013Even if your do not want to hear it.
History repeats itself
Silverstone 2011
“Of course I ignored the team because I wanted to make up one position,” Webber said afterwards why he the gap to Vettel decreased from 7.5 to 0.5 seconds.*** SITE MANAGER ***
You might need to try going back a bit earlier than 2011! -
Andrew Shepherd
on March 29, 2013CHRISTIAN HORNER said that Vetel wanted to win the race( like Mark didn’t want to win ) and that they’ve sorted the incident in Brazil last year (all this with a selfish smile on his face). This man is disgusting. Do you thing we are all cretins. The team clearly has a favourite, just as Mark said.
Be calm Mark. Ignore vetel. You’re much better than him and you know it. I would love to see you humiliate Vetel. I think you did that today.
Best of luck!
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stuart
on March 29, 2013read the http://www.bbc.co.uk
It is pretty darned bad, apparently when Grosjean put MW out last year , SV,s garage were cheering
Also read, where Marko says, that the pair patched it up after the Malaysian G.P
Lying is worse than anything
These men are driven,by greed, money, power
I think our Man should quit, whilst he is alive and well
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Clinton Holloway
on March 29, 2013Again for FOXKORNER…. in silverstone 2011 the team destroyed vettels race with a bad pit stop… i think… but after that seb was lapping considerably slower (putting really) than alonso out in front… webber, who was flying in the last stint, probably had a chance of hunting the ferrari down so the situation is totally different… vettel also had a massive lead in the championship…. your clearly [site manager edit]….! at malaysia 2013 seb couldnt hack the idea that mark started from 5th and jumped the [site manager edit]…. and watch the footage of turkey 2010… mark is defending and vettel drives straight over, cuts webber off…your right there was no team order… just arrogance and poor judgement from seb…! please stop sticking up for the german with your pathetic little stories about the past…! saying that mark webber is selfish…? he rasises money in a fitness event, does alot for charity, moved over for sebastian at brasil 2012 etc… selfish..? the more i think about your comments the more i realise im the idiot for arguing with a complete dumbass…! pi** off
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Clinton Holloway
on March 29, 2013On a bright note folks… we all know that webber would have won and changed his strategy if he though he’d be fighting with seb in the last stint… he wont let it happen again so we wont have long to wait for mark’s tenth win… I cant wait to see the little bitch humiliated in front of his home crowd at the nurburg GP 2013…seb definately dips out on that track…we’re all behind you mark and im glad your a more decent person than myself…. i would have smacked vettel either in the podium room or up in front of everyone… your a top bloke mark and an inspiration to all of us…. two races in and so many highlights… unbelievable
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Clinton Holloway
on March 29, 2013(apologies to the site manager for having to remove my comment concerning GERMAN)
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jay
on March 29, 2013VERY INTERESTING!!! (anyone old enough to remember the US comedy show “Laugh In” will understand the in joke I just put in there…a
Anyhoo, curious, I just visited Vettel’s site for the first time, lo and behold it is ONLY in German! There is no English translation, which is both odd and gives some insight, that being, the sport is global, and english is the global language, so why not have it available and, also, Spanish and Chinese etc, so this site too should think more broadly in terms of the global fan base. Anyhoo, Vettel would do well to allow online comments, could not see any, just a snail mail land based address you post to. It is too much control, and all very, very German!
Mark, I wonder if you ever do read here? You should, us ‘poor’ fans, (those who can’t afford your annual fee) are some of your most ardent supporters.
Anyhoo, I hope you maintain your dignity and aplomb, take no prisoners, and make sure your team does not fiddle with your starts, and gives you perfect pitstops, as we saw for the most part in Maylasia and, study Vettel’s drives, like he did yours once, to improve his performance on particular track you won on, use his tactics…
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Pete
on March 29, 2013I am a little bit over people commending Vettle for apologising like it was big of him? His selfish actions left him with no other course of action, the world was watching unless he wanted to come across as a complete asshole he did not have a choice, in this day and age public image also equals dollars in his pocket, he couldn’t risk the corporate sponsors thinking he might not be such a good ambassador. So again the apology was for selfish reasons not from remorse.
Unfortunately Mark I disagree with your comment that he respects you, I don’t believe he does or anyone else for that matter.
Life not just elite sport causes us to have to deal with difficult situations and decisions, how we choose to handle those situations and the decisions we make is what defines our character, Vettle showed his true character arrogant and concerned with only his pride. Mark on the other hand obviously was aware of the efforts and expectations of the entire team, he could have chosen to make a real fight of it which would be a racers natural instinct, and risk neither of them finishing, thus the teams efforts being for nothing, but he chose to consolidate second place and sort it out later, as always the consummate professional.
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Cole Trickle
on March 29, 2013The best thing about the malaysian gp was mark outraced sebastian and its ONLY round two so the kookaburra has managed to ruffel some bigger eagles feathers !! mark beat vettel and when vettel see marks car when he going down the straight from pit lane he not expecting to see that one !!! not bad for a driver whos too slow hey !!! , and vettel get jelous that for the first time in a long time he has been beaten by mark i am really happy that mark came second its ONLY round two because he has shown he beat vettel already and thats is the first step , so i think mark has worked very hard and his tyre wear is good , so this makes the 2013 F1 season all the better because mark webber looks awesome this year and has now shown the goose with the golden eggs he has a team mate who can do amazing things also and its about team work this will be the BEST F1 season ever this year i cant wait until round 3 in china !!! mark webber starting to believe now 🙂
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Code21
on March 29, 2013Message to Mark
First: Seb is faster than you!
You have no respect to Seb seen in the last Race in 2012
Why should seb have respect to you?
I think you are a angry old man
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emily
on March 30, 2013RE: code21. webber let vettel through during the last race of 2012. its not marks fault seb crashed into senna at the start of the race…! and vettel should show mark respect when hes’ been outraced and can only win through vile attacks from behind. vettel is clearly the disrespectful one in the Redbull duo… asswipe
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Trav
on March 31, 2013Code 21 you are a smoker!!
Seb is ingrained with the same ethos as Schuey…if your cannot win fair and square…then cheat. MW is a quality sportsman, and no matter the result he will always be respected. Why do you think Mark is so popular….its called class…and hes got it in abundance. MW for more wins in 2013 and the championship. It truly was pathetic by Christian to say that there was no point in telling Seb to give back the position…what a load of bullshit. Your the boss Mr Horner…and you let Seb get away with it. Grow a set of plums and assert yourself. Cant wait for China, and MW head down giving his all, thats all sports fans want to see…a persons best effort put forward,
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nick
on March 31, 2013The same thing used to happen with senna & prost they would ingnore team orders
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TRICKO
on March 31, 2013message to code 21.sv clearly was not faster if he was he should have overtaken in the previous 40 something laps.And respect well,they dont have to necessarily respect each other but they do have to respect the team and its orders thems the rules!
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konkop
on March 31, 2013I never was and will never be a vettels fan. He is by far not the best driver in f1 only got his titles thanks to the brillant RB car and the team having him as no one driver mostly because of rich and influential germans in charge. shame for mark as i like him a lot hes a true pro. im not saying that mark is the best out there cause alonso is with no doubt. and surely any of these drivers would win given vettels car and team support and drivers reel potential is only measurable when he outperforms the car which is not on top. vettel is like schumacher was all their titles counts for nothing in my book they for sure are not the titles for beeing the best drivers, theh will definietly think about themselfs as the greatest and couldnt be more wrong. this is the world that we live in very far from beeing just.
p.s
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Multi21
on March 31, 2013Are Seb & Marko a couple?
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PeteH
on March 31, 2013Great race, shame you were stabbed in the back by the guy who should have been watching your back. Now team orders have been ripped up you are free to win the Chanpionship. Good Luck
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axel bauer
on March 31, 2013well, wrong is wrong, but this was wrong too, mark, so stop behaving like a total victim:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/motor-sports/formula-one/mark-webber-attacked-red-bull-teammate-sebastian-vettel-despite-team-order-in-the-british-formula-one-grand-prix/story-e6frf3zl-1226092018157
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Mizzlewig
on March 31, 2013Mark, as usual you were a genuine sportsman. There were 2 Red Bull racers out there, but only one of them was “playing cricket”. I respect the way you handled yourself, both on the track and on the podium. The comment about Vettel being protected has again proved to be sadly accurate.
Hey, other Webber fans, let’s send Horner the message in no uncertain terms. Let’s try to get a campaign to go viral for a protest on the Sat & Sun of the Chinese Grand Prix to boycott purchases of Red Bull energy drink, and show the major sponsor that people vote with their cash. If we can get it well enough known and sales drop for those two days, RBR might actually take a bit of notice
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Peter
on April 1, 2013I had the pleasure of interviewing Mark the year before he made his impressive debut at the Australian Grand Prix with Minardi. It struck me then (and remains to this very day) what a decent bloke Mark is, probably the most level headed guy on the grid. I have been following Mark’s progress in F1 through his whole career and he deserves to be treated with more respect by his teammate. He is a brilliant example of a sportsman and his team should be very proud of him. Whatever your views on team orders, when they are imposed, you must respect them, like Nico Rosberg did, for example. Vettel disrespected authority and gained his 27th race win. But at what cost? He has positioned himself as a man not to be trusted, and certainly a man with no honour. Best of luck for 2013 Mark, you would be a shining example of how a true champion should behave. PS: Before F1, I asked if I could interview you again, to which you said “Yeah! No problem!”. I hope we can talk again soon 😉 Will be cheering you on at the next race 🙂
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Xavier
on April 1, 2013Webber, we believe in you, not your team. If this is your last year in Formula 1, we wish you to win the world title, it would be a memorable ending.
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Jeff
on April 1, 2013Ultimately Mark knows better than anyone the games that go on behind closed doors. This does nothing for the sport and fans. I’m a huge follower since Mark was a test driver at Benetton and he deserves better. What ever the outcome Mark is a quality driver and person and has immense support just by reading this thread. That cannot be said for many others.
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emily
on April 1, 2013AXEL BAUER, as a twit, you need to consider this… webber has been the bigger person here, saying that seb respects him and that he got alot out of the race is not playing the victim…. he simply feels that it is wrong that he was attacked when thinking both rebulls were coasting to the finish… and despite being given the second drivers’ role, while listening to the bullsh** about equal drivers coming from horner and co…. mark has frequently justified the teams’ actions and stayed strong and loyal… wrong is wrong…? your comments and perspective are clearly wrong, go and preach on a german/vettel website you tool.
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konkop
on April 1, 2013also what baffles me that why horner and the team did not order vettel to give the place back to mark and i think they should.
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Nick Metcalfe
on April 2, 2013He could make a more genuine attempt at showing real remorse for his dubious actions by giving Mark P1 the next time it’s possible to do so, but I’m afraid it’s very unlikely to happen given the German’s mind set.
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matt
on April 2, 2013Hi Mark, take inspiration from the last column you wrote for the BBC. “Life is full of choices. Sure, none of us are perfect, but ultimately karma always triumphs”
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Glen
on April 2, 2013When a person puts thyself above the team, thy person should not be in the team anymore….
I don’t think Seb will be getting many offers of employment this year…..
Mark comments please?
Alas but we understand you are a professional and hence never endulge our childish behaviour as fans….
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Ian F
on April 2, 2013Thought Red Bull would be filthy with Vettel but after listening and reading Chritian Horners comments, I was not surprised how quickly he appointed some of the blame for Vettels actions away from him and towards Webby. The result was not surprising after hearing Vettel was on a different strategy and as most suspected had more HP at his disposal for the supposed cruise to the finish line (faster compound as well). The rest is history and Red Bull artifically manafactured the result to ensure their GOLDEN CHILD had an unfair advantage over his TEAM MATE at the business end of the race:(
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scott
on April 3, 2013enter racing and be a part of the politics.
you will see where both parties are standing.Stand strong vettel, the waves of hell from this shockwave of a mistake will beat down on you in the future.
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scott
on April 3, 2013.. and yes you do have to look at the MW vs SV history to see how strained it is.
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Joe Pledger
on April 3, 2013I like Vettel,Hamilton,Button,Alonso,Raikkonen but I think quite a few people would like to see Mark Webber win a few more races and win the title.
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To The Base Of It
on April 3, 2013So looking forward to China!!
I do hope you do well this year Mark and i realy would like you to drive on another few years. Christian Horner should have told Seb to give back P1…but he obviously doent have the stones to do whats right!!
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Mark Bradley
on April 4, 2013You are one of the best drivers, and we do root for you to win the Driver’s Championship in our house. Good luck for ever, and hope to hear many more of your Aussie colloquialisms from the top step of the podium!
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sinan
on April 4, 2013Vettel did not over take during Mark’s pit stop. He did try and try and try many time to pass. Obviously he did it purposely. He was lying whoever he was speaking to after the race that he had not known what he was actually doing. Seb, you are in big time trouble in the upcoming races unless the team doesnt give Mark a bad car, purposely. Last season they made all the necessary upgrades particularly for Vettel. No any upgrade did suit Mark’s driving.
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Graham
on April 4, 2013Christian Horner’s radio message says it all: “C’mon Seb, this is silly” when what he should have said forcefully was “Seb, do not engage, multi 21, do not engage”. You were robbed of the win earned through superior strategy and good pace. Maybe it’s time to give Eric Boullier a call? Also, with the change in engine profile for next year, would it be better in a factory team or a customer team.
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UP FROM THE BASE OF IT
on April 5, 2013I watched the whole Malaysian GP….and ive viewed plenty of racing….Mark owned the race from the get go….and every genuine fan knows it. MW got shafted as much by his team as SV. Your a complete [Site Manager Edit] Christian..How do you look at yourself?
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TRAV
on April 5, 2013HOPE U STAY IN F1 NEXT YR MARK…..DONT WORRY ABOUT LE MANS….STICK WITH F1….WHERE WE AUSSIES WILL SUPPORT YOU.
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Susan
on April 6, 2013Mark, I hope you read at least a few of the thousands of comments posted here and elsewhere by your hundreds of thousands of fans worldwide. As an Australian I am proud of your sportsmanship, dignity, decency and genuine humane qualities. I think Jacques Villeneuve (World Champ 1997) summed up SV very well – I’ll quote him “He (vettel) is super fast but he’s a man without honour and respect, so for me he is not a great champion or a great man.”
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Mack Brabham
on April 6, 2013My last name is Brabham. I have a brother whose name is Jack Brabham and naturally we claim to be kin to you-know-who! We are from the USA and I have been a fan of yours for more than 10 years having first actually seen you race at Hockenheim when you were driving for Minardi.
In short, I think you are a terrific driver. If you could ever get your start worked out then things would be substantially better. You just need some clean air! Finally, do not get distracted by the bad behavior of Vettel. Keep your mind clear and your eyes on the goal. All of my family is pulling for you. The best of luck !
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Bruce
on April 7, 2013After reading the strong show of support for Mr Webber on this site I decided to visit Mr Vettel’s site looking foward to reading the perspective given by his supporters on the race. Maybe my iPhone navigation skills are shite but no where could I find a section for public feedback on the race from his site. It was all one way traffic from Mr Vettel. This tells a story in itself. Mr Vettel has an occupation all of us envy and in this day and age has an obligation to open himself to the people who support F1 given that without our support the sport disappears. Hope to be proven wrong and look forward to receiving a link where I can read the German’s supporters views on the race.
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Rana
on April 7, 2013I also checked Vettel web site. See what says Christian Horner:
Sebastian Vettel may be the today’s villain, however, Christian Horner reckons any and every driver – including Mark Webber – ‘would have done the same’.
“He is a race driver, a fiercely competitive individual,” the Red Bull team boss told the Daily Mail. “You don’t win 27 Grands Prix and three World Championships without being a very driven individual.
“At times you do not have control of them, as much as you would like to. All you rely on is that they respect each other, the team and the equipment.Does it mean that the team orders don’t matter; you are not expected to obey? Mark Webber is also free to do what ever he wants ???
A team boss who accept that he can not control his team!!!
A team boss who protect the driver who didn’t obey his order against the other one who obeyed!!!
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Seldo
on April 7, 2013Mark – Vettel’s action was inexcusable, and totally underhand. It was your race all the way.
Best way to square up…? Don’t get mad, get even. Just serve it up to him, and ferkget team orders.
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Vic aka Civy
on April 8, 2013Let’s wait and see if there is such a thing as ‘Karma’ now 🙂
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Patrick
on April 11, 2013Vettel does a dis-service not only to his team mate who continues to show enormous dignity but to Formula One, its teams and sponsors. Soon people will be turned right off the sport as there is no pleasure in watching the antics of a man who is perceived by many as being little more than a spoiled brat. The interest in the sport will decline, advertising, tv and sponsorhip revenues will decline and the sport will suffer.
Mark, just be true to yourself as you always have been and enjoy the respect of all those who follow Formula 1 and above all remember that you are the winner. Your team mate is never likely to experience the repect that you have. He only knows how to measure success by numbers and not by true quality.
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Tim
on April 11, 2013Mark, you are inspiration to many mate, and whatever choice u make I’m sure it will be the right one. Would love to see u continue in f1,u are the reason many aussies follow it,but understand it would be difficult to work with a selfish and spoilt team mate. All the best.
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TravDog
on April 11, 2013JUST READ SV COMMENTS AT CHINA….BOUT HOW MW DESERVED TO BE PASSED…AND THAT HES NOT SORRY …..SEB YOU ARE [Site Manager Edit]!!
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Susan
on April 11, 2013I just read Vettel’s comments of the last 48hrs and am more disgusted. What an arrogant, disrespectful, selfish little boy he is. I absolutely couldn’t stand beside such a disgraceful person and I take my hat off to you Mark for being in Shanghai. May you a brilliant qualifying, drive well, have great starts and pit-stops and WIN:)
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Trav
on April 11, 2013Listening to the new SV interview on the net is just surreal….is this kid for real. Seb, you have been raised the wrong way mate….and im afraid, that the only thing that will save you is a good old fashioned flogging….a good punch in the head. MW just keep doing what you do….being a class act. Its just crossed my mind recently, that if being a triple world champ means youve got to be a f…witt then its not worth it. Seb & Michael both embarrass themselves with their childish petulence. It makes me sick.
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Sebasty Vettel
on April 11, 2013I just wanted to let MW know that i know im a flogg. I hate you MW cos you are well liked and a class act, and your better looking with better hair than me. I shouldve let you win the Malaysian GP Mark, but im a spoilt bratt and i couldnt bring myself to do the right thing for the team.:(
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Trav
on April 11, 2013I HOPE YOU WIN THE CHINA GP MARK, AND THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IN 2013.
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Bryan
on April 13, 2013I hear commentators like young Will Buxton explain it away by saying “hey these guys are racers. I say let them race on. Vettel is ruthless and that is what it takes to be a champion”
I am aghast that the concept of honour has completely left our society. Mark has plenty of honour and he displayed maturity beyond years to keep his mouth from repeating many of the thoughts that surely were running through his head.
Sebastian has lost all his shine too me. Anyone who puts himself above others and disobeys team orders to do the most unsporting of things deserves to be benched. Then I hear a comment about how many millions of dollars are involved in a decision to bench him. Honour has no price. Christian Horner is obviously just a baby sitter to a petulant young spoiled favorite child. He only placates Sebastian and hasn’t the honour to stand up and say: He did the most unsporting of things today, so he will be sitting out the next Grand Prix.
Mark stands head and shoulders above the rest of the paddock because of his calm demeanor in a very tough and “raw” situation.
Kudos to Ross Brawn and Lewis Hamilton AND Nico Rosberg for showing how a team principal is supposed to act, Lewis for how to be humble and Nico for demonstrating how much of a man he is by submitting his own will to that of the team!
Keep on the path Mark. Nothing will take the shine off of your actions. Sebastian has just shown what a non-sportsman he is and his star though it may continue to rise has lost all its glory.
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